I don’t have any family members like that, but I do have an aunt who for lack of a better term believes in pretty insane tankie shit, no one talks to her though, technically we don’t invite her for christmas, she just kind of shows up and we let her join because she’s already there, if it were up to me I wouldn’t but my mom doesn’t want to do that to her sister (even though they ignore each other the whole time).
I’m going into the den of racists this year, wish me luck
I need advice on how to radicalise 3years old
Tell them sharing is caring. Ez pz
They need to learn sandbox rules at that age anyway, and since sandbox rules boil down to:
A) Be nice to everyone
B) Share your toys/the playground with others
C)Having friends is better than having enemies
They’ll radicalize themselves for a few minutes at a time till they are about 7, then you’ll have to work against the conservative brainwashing. Up till then the kids know what equality means far better than most adults do.
Communism is essentially sandbox rules extrapolated to societies of billions. Though there are case-specific sandbox rules like:
J) In case of emergency, get yourself safe. If you can manage to check on others, get them safe too.
K) Everybody gets a cupcake. If there’s not enough cupcakes portion out partials while helping with cupcake production.
L) Do not escalate when someone engages in malicious or hostile behavior, rather gather the community to seek to comfort those harmed and route out underlying problems.
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“Mommy, what does ‘we shall make no excuses for the terror’ mean?”
First Dog on the Moon my beloved
Communist Penguins are a pretty good symbol for most of the users on Lemmy. (Or maybe just the most vocal users.)
I use penguin btw
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While I like the sentiment, it’s not entirely true.
You can’t convince people to change their core beliefs. That’s not how deprogramming works anyway. Cult deprogramming starts by asking them to explain and asking questions that let them unravel the problem themselves. Pointing out people’s internal contradictions tends to reinforce them, but when they run in to their own contradictions those absurd beliefs tend to unravel.
Inception rules basically
questioning their logic is really effective, ask one good question and don’t expect an answer. that question will haunt them and make them realize they’re probably wrong a few hours/days later.
actually saved someone from the “immigrants bad, pure germans strong” rabbithole.
actually saved someone from the “immigrants bad, pure germans strong” rabbithole.
I’m curious, how did you do that?
long story short, the whole eugenics thing doesn’t make sense. the nordics nor the aryans never actually existed.
i asked questions about what seperates them from their neighbour (who may be an immigrant) besides their mother tongue and what group of people they decide they wanna hang out with.
a lot of what we call “race” is just culture IMO. sure, you have slightly darker skin or better hair growth to deal with enviromental things like sand or the sun. but our brains aren’t wired much different.
make them question the little things. then the whole picture doesn’t make sense anymore. a lot of what they parrot around is still basically what a deranged nazi on drugs thought up to basically pin the blame on “Ausländer”.
please don’t actually
too late bucko
no, please do, it’s so fun
Nah, I don’t dine with fascists. I’ve made that very clear that if fascists are invited to dinner I will not attend, and take it as my family expressing a preference for their company over mine.
You’ll never change someone overnight or in one conversation, but every time you say something radically leftist, you’re planting a seed in uncle Jim-Bob that will slowly shift their way of thinking. Deradicalizing conservatives, racists, fascists, etc is hard as fuck. The important thing is that when someone goes to you and intentionally starts questioning their ideals, you’ve been handed the opportunity to change their mind slowly over months/years
There reaches a tipping point though. When you hear something radically right leaning does it plant a seed that slowly shifts you? Or does it annoy you and get immediately pushed away?
The difference is in the truth. People gravitate towards the truth, it takes conditioning to divert people from the truth. “I’m not being paid enough to live comfortably. Why could that be?”:
- A complex economic system that prioritizes the growth of wealth for a small privileged minority, means that i will never be paid the full worth of my labor
- jews
Why do people ever go towards the second one as their answer? It takes a convoluted web of lies being bombarded on the person daily and sucked down a pipeline of outrage.
I agree with everything you’ve said. I’ve found however that some people are quite entrenched, and attempting to bring them over just pushes them further away. In those circumstances I find it better to just wait until an opening presents itself. Tactical strikes instead of a constant light shower.
Repeat after me kids:
Debout les damnés de la terre, debout les forçats de la faim…
La raison tonne en son cratère, C’est l’éruption de la fin.
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Le monde va changer de base shoobidoo wha shoobidoo doo
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My highly religious uncle that looks like a literal gnome is the most entertaining one to be around, but only if one can mange to sneak away to smoke weed first. Otherwise it’s just a lecture about how everything I’m doing with my life goes against god.
That’s okay, everything he did with his life goes against God, too.
Not that anyone knows what God thinks. Even the Pope has admitted as much.
My religious family gave up on the “you’re a sinner” lecture after I made it super clear that A) I don’t care and B) I’m not going to argue with them about it. If I got mad or tried to fight about it, they LOVED that shit, but being like, “yup!” and throwing some finger pistols their way and they don’t really have a response besides telling me to not sin. But they can only keep that up so long when you’re like, “oh no doubt, Uncle Fuckface.”
I mean, I also don’t talk to them anymore so that really solved the problem, but the cheerful agreement that I’m for sure going to hell got me through my teenage years/early 20s. Surprise, I didn’t get less queer even after all the lectures!
If those kinds of assholes are the ones going to heaven, I’m glad I won’t be joining them.
The ‘Lecture’ stopped bothering me a while ago for the same reason as you, it’s just way more fun to antagonize them about it while high.
Thank you, Tux. I will take your advice and create new leftists. Should I tell them about Foss too, or should that wait?
FOSS is a good way to convert techbros to leftism.
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Delusions of self-confidence in their skills due to having an in-demand job. Once supply meets demand and their wages fall to the norm, tech bros won’t have that insane level of confidence in having “won” Capitalism.
Gor The Little beans, give them a few, for the 15 and up crowd, lay it on
For the little beans…
Well everyone’s journey is different. I started with just finding out how cool programming is, learned about foss, and then one day said “why doesn’t everything follow foss principles?”
and the answer, as with all things, is “because developers have to eat”
my dad bought me a samsung galaxy ace, because an iphone was too expensive. now i run around with a fairphone telling people how great linux is (i never used linux for more than a day)
Tell them about Arch Linux.
Good advice from an animal? We could name a community after this.
But let’s not.
Suggestion Mammals sounds good.
Only mammals? That rules out this post!
Suggestions organisms maybe? Who doesn’t want tips from a bacteria?