The main difference is, unless you’re tragically born with shitty genes, guys can attain those bodies on the left with diet and exercise. Women on the other hand usually have to go to a different country to get discount surgery to look like a video game character so that chuds will pay attention to them.
Apparently no one is allowed to have body hair.
Because IT’S ILLEGAL!
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Looking at what the young uns are wearing these days (and the resurgence of mullets), I would put money on chest hair coming back within the next decade.
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Women like femboys more than men
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It’s gonna have come and went before the decade has passed
Cavill almost always has chest hair. The only time I can recall seeing him without chest and stomach hair is in The Tudors.
None of those guys have a healthy hard-worker or warrior body. They all have a dehydrated, 1% body fat gym bro body, just like Hollywood wants us to believe a healthy man looks like.
actually none of them look particularly dehydrated. They just look like they’re straight from a good pump. Dehydrated would leave them very veiny, like, prominently.
Except the actors have talked about it.
I remember Hugh Jackman specifically talked about it in an interview as part of why he wanted to stop being wolverine. He was getting tired of the unhealthy regime of dehydrating to look as clean cut as possible.
I myself managed this, and knew a bunch of folks that also did, about 15 or so years ago (trying to get back into it, however my health took a few turns since then). Then again I was taking supplements, such as Jack3D at the time (which has been banned for some time since), and wonder if those contributed to it.
yeah that’s why I used hugh jackmans wolverine as an example of what an unhealthy dehydrated body looks like.
These other guys aren’t dehydrated. They just look swole from getting a pump on directly before the scene was shot.
I doubt they’re even on PEDS. These body types are 100% attainable if you put in the effort and sustain it.
I doubt they’re even on PEDS.
While Dr. Schroeder refrains from explicitly mentioning specific Hollywood actors whom he suspects of using performance enhancers
I’m going with the doctor, rather than the random guy on Lemmy who provides no reference, just opinion.
that’s literally what the dr gave. an opinion. Also, I’ve been to medical school and have been bodybuilding since I was 10.
blessed be the thor design from God Of War
abandon all hope ye who enter this comment section
You don’t have to live up to Hollywood standards, you just have to stop holding everyone else up to Hollywood standards. Just look at day time talk shows, those people have no problem finding a partner, and the only reason they end up on those shows is because they have no sense of shame.
They are all on T.
and Amphetamines
yea bro we could actually get everything we would all look like that and all die at 50
Nah, they’ll all live to 70s-80s. Cause in addition to having access to these body-destroying drugs, they also have access to cutting edge medicine, and let me tell you, medicine ain’t what it was like in the 80s. We have solved lots of the problems these people will face due to these drugs. Sure, they’ll have a worse quality of life than if they never took them but we can make sure they survive. The rich have it good coming and going.
idk I tried amphetamines and let’s just say I haven’t necessarily improved.
BA Barracus approves
sTeroids?
Tren, but yes.
I thought the T meant Testosterone, like TRT, Testosterone Replacement Therapy which is common for older men.
Like anything though, there’s a fine line between use and abuse.
For sure a good six months of perfect training and diet, plus the steroids, AND the water manipulation.
Or peptides. Peptide experimentation is rampant. Will probably lead to some weird cancers in 5-10 years
Im gonna ask you. What exactly is the problem with that?
I can walk into a plastic surgeon and talk about how I dont like my eyes/ears/nose/lips/etc and they will take a fucking scalpel and cut me up. I can get hair implants, butt implants, pec implants. I could eat until I have to waddle into a doctors office to be offered a veritable menu of weight loss drugs and invasive surgeries. If I were a woman and pound weight loss drugs, engage in extreme dieting and get some “work done” the general attitude will be “Yass Queen, live your best life!” and not to be transphobic (Its not coming from that place, think what you want) but I could even wholeheartedly believe that my entire gender is wrong and recieve surgeries, hormones and therapies to change that.
But because I’m a grown man in good shape who works out 6 days a week, despite their being an extensive list of drugs and compounds that can relatively safely* give me the body I’d love to have I’m not allowed to have them because they are “performance enhancing” like that isnt the whole reason I want them. I am told, that even with strict medical supervision, bloodwork and other support I’m straight up not allowed. People act like the recipe isnt “Steroids… and a FUCKLOAD OF WORK”
I’m fine with steroid usage but want people to be honest about it.
Agreed, they have to lie because its illegal, the ones who lie and sell workout plans are con-artists. Simple.
Yeah, I just wish it weren’t so taboo. It would be great if folks could just be honest so you could get a better idea of—
-This is the physique that is generally achievable for someone of my size who is natty -This is the physique that is generally achievable for someone of my size with just Cyp -This is what I can achieve with tren
Etc, etc
I don’t think it’s great that boys are comparing themselves to these guys, buy I agree that you should be allowed to do whatever you want to your body.
Agree 100%
Its like eating disorders or extreme dieting and modelling. The difference with PEDs is the lies, they are actors not athletes. Would it be more or less helpful to young men wanting to look like that to know the truth. “This took tens of thousands of dollars in trainers, dieticians and pharmaceuticals and working out was basically my job for 6 whole months” at least putting it in a realistic frame of reference.
The meme sort of explains why.
Im gonna ask you. What exactly is the problem with that?
One example of a problem is the fact that the majority of them do not openly talk about it. In fact it’s the opposite, they deny taking PEDs and claim it’s all hard work and that anybody can achieve it.
A more specific example is Chris Hemsworth who sells training programs that claim to give you his physique. Don’t you see the problem with this?
I do agree with you that it if people want to use it they should, under medical supervision and with full understanding of the risks and commitment they bring. My limited understanding of using exogenous hormones is that your body will lose the ability to properly make them and one is bound to taking them for life.
Is there anybody who looks just as good & big as say Hemsworth but who has a third party publicly release medical/drug tests? (So, any massive but proven clean dudes out there?)
Hard to believe EVERY giant is taking big risks with drugs!
I see a problem with people lying about it, especially if they are profiting off the lie or using it to gain an unfair advantage in sports. The fact that they are illegal and you have to get them underground exacerbates the problem. Its not on your medical history, theres no official records of you being on them so you can lie.
The issue I have is theres a social distain towards steroids that seems unfair when compared to all the other things I listed. I’m not ashamed to tell you that I’m not on steroids, but only because I dont have reliable access to them. Because they are extremely illegal in Australia and because we are an island nation hard to smuggle in and therefore HORRIBLY expensive. If I could have my doctor manage a sensibly dosed regime, Id start tomorrow and I wouldnt lie for a second about it.
You’re half right about the hormones, you experience supression when coming off a cycle thats pretty much directly proportional to your dosage and duration when on steroids. Which is why Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) is a must, suplements that help rebalance your hormones and bring testosterone production back up.
The problem with them being illicit and distained is that theres nothing stopping people from just setting their own insane dosages, running terrible stacks (multiple different drugs/compounds), not doing adequate PCT and generally making up their own rules, leading to bad outcomes.
I agree with you that the stigma around them is not a net positive. Adults should be able to use tools available, in a safe way and if they don’t harm others in the process. Legalizing their use would also minimize problems from illegal trade.
Thanks for the info on the PCT, was not aware. The examples I read were extreme, were the person had been using for years and in high doses so they were effectively dependent on them.
I’ve gone longer than 3 days without water and I look nothing like those guys. Wtf?
how the hell do you go more than 3 days without water? these dudes have staff to make sure they don’t fucking die
You have to cut out the Mountain Dew as well
Have you tried hiring a personal trainer and using ‘supplements’?
Hollywood’s standards for women are just a normal woman’s body. Hollywood’s standard for men is the body of a greek god.
I’m struggling to think of any famous women who look like they weigh 170 lbs. It’s either Margot Robbie or Lizzo, there’s not a lot in between
I agree with your second statement. Though your first statement is borderline moronic.
Nothing “borderline” about it. That statement is 100% moronic.
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Yeah, it’s the water. That’s the problem
Only part of it, but it’s kinda crazy that studios can go “hey, you need to literally dehydrate yourself for this shot so your veins and muscles can pop out more easily.”
But this is also the industry where Stanley Kubrick practically abused his actors and is a celebrated director, so…
Actors careers really seem to be at the whim of industry insiders. Harvey Weinstein was able to get away with his shit for decades.
To be fair you can make amazing movies and be a shit person
In some cases it doesn’t even make sense.
Why is Witcher so cut and lean? He hunts monsters. He’s not going to maintain a diet while doing that. Dude should look like Vasily Alexeev or Dean Lukin.
Dude that’s Superman you’re talking about
He’s literally a mutant
There are more relevant examples
Out of all the examples, you picked one where they literally give him super steroids to hunt monsters more effectively.
It’s a lot of things. It’s a diet so strict and regimented it controls your life, same for exercise, and then they dehydrate for days. Is the water why random person on Lemmy doesn’t look like that? No, that’s because nobody looks like that unless it’s their job to look like that or it’s their only hobby or they have serious mental health issues pushing them that way. But it is dangerous for most people to even try because yeah it involves a lot of risky decisions and they don’t even look like that all the time
Dude I like seeing sexy people on tv. If I want to look at something mediocre I can just look in a mirror.
You look mediocre? Lucky.
dad bod is still sexy, lots of people find that actively sexier
LoL. There’s a fish out there for ya if your line is strong enough.
Maybe for relationships but I’d be mad if Superman came out with bellyfat because that ruins the whole “Super” man idea. He’d just be Man…
i feel we have different definitons of dad bod, it doesn’t mean beer belly lol
it just means not having a sixpack and being able to see every single muscle fibre, it’s what henry cavill looks like when he isn’t filming a movie where he needs chiseled abs.
I’m talking about that as well. Just because it’s Henry Cavill’s dad bod doesn’t mean I would want to watch a movie where Superman’s physique is that of a normal person.
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If I recall correctly isuku midoria had a six pack before he got his powers and he was considered weak at that point
Well… he’s some form of super at least 🤣
… You know this is probably still better than what DC is putting out now.
There’s a big difference in body image set by men for women and body image set for men by men
Every study shows that the vast majority of men are perfectly fine with a very wide range of women’s bodies.
Can you link one of them you consider credible? I’ve never heard of that, tbh.
They said every study, so just find one, obviously. /s
Just do your own research! Every study counts so why shouldn’t yours? /s
Do you look outside and see men with women? Are those women all models? Or do they have a wide range of normal bodies?
You don’t need a study to prove what you can see with your eyes.
I wanna suck these dudes nipples
But aquaman is from the water.
In case anyone is hoping to achieve the left side of the picture remember every one of the is on PEDs
Idris Elba lookin skinny compared to the rest of them. Also, I don’t think that’s actually Ben Shapiro bottom right lmao.
