• @nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de
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    602 years ago

    Considering how overloaded lemmy.world is right now, a pi in someone’s basement would be better, and besides, centralization is bad. Federation is what prevents lemmy from becoming the next Twitter.

  • @ThatGuyFromWork@lemm.ee
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    1202 years ago

    Actually an instance dedicated to self hosted stuff would be great. We could have communities specifically for things like home lab, media hosting (Plex, Jellyfin, Emby), unRAID, TrueNAS, shit posting, hardware discussions, general conversations, etc.

    This would reduce the strain on lemmy.world and give us all a dedicated home for more niche topics without posts getting buried

  • @SomeOtherUsername@lemmynsfw.com
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    422 years ago

    In terms of an optimal load spread, it’s best if the lemmiverse is split into multiple equally sized instances. If you use an instance just for yourself, it doesn’t actually decrease the load on the main servers in any way. The only thing you get is a guarantee that your instance won’t suddenly go down.

    • Admiral Patrick
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      302 years ago

      If you use an instance just for yourself, it doesn’t actually decrease the load on the main servers in any way.

      That’s not completely true. Yeah, it still loads another server a bit, but the server-to-server federation traffic is much more lightweight than the client-to-server traffic that would be involved with you having an account on that server and accessing it that way.

      But yeah, multiple, equally-sized communities on different instances is the ideal situation. The only sticky part right now is FOMO because you’d have to constantly watch for new SelfHosted communities and join them. Hopefully some frontend tools come along soon to make joining/managing multiple communities like that more streamlined.

      • @Strive7307@discuss.tchncs.de
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        112 years ago

        Yes, ideally you‘d want to have a few large communties on each instance and not all topics with a single userbase on one. This not only decreases the load but also prevents scenarios in which a single admin starts to capsule their instance with a large userbase away from the federation.

      • RCMaehl [Any]
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        192 years ago

        I’m going to self host my own instance so I can have a cool username

      • @andreluis034@lm.put.tf
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        82 years ago

        What kind of “control” do you mean? Your posts/comments get replicated across all the other instances. You can’t really “guarantee” a delete, since the other instances might just ignore your request for delete.

        • @ipkpjersi@lemmy.one
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          142 years ago

          By control, I mean I can back up my data and ensure my comments, subscribed communities, messages, etc are all available to me no matter what, I don’t have to rely on some external third-party managing it for me.

        • @ipkpjersi@lemmy.one
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          22 years ago

          My instance will be for me only, I will be the only person on it and it will be closed for registrations. I won’t be responsible for anyone else’s data on my instance, nothing for me to be concerned about.

          • @RomanRoy@lemmy.world
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            22 years ago

            I’m not really sure about that. I’m not saying it as an expert or anything, but that’s a discussion I saw around here the other day.

            Basically, once you federate and copy the content to your instance, it is in your server and you are responsible for it.

            I’ll agree with a few things, tho:

            It barely happens today, on centralized platforms. They’re hardly obliged to remove content because some judge says so (it does happen, tho, at least in my country)

            I’d imagine it would be a bit of a grey area legally, right now. We would need legislation regarding the fediverse. Imagine someone posts child porn in an instance yours is federated to. Your instance copies the content. You notice and defederated the whole instance, but don’t remove the content. The dude is banned by his home instance and his post is removed. But his copy still exists in yours, since you defederated before his ban and content removal.

            Just saying that selfhosting brings a lot of things that need to come to your attention.

            • @ipkpjersi@lemmy.one
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              22 years ago

              Does Lemmy automatically grab all content from all federated servers, or does it only grab the content from communities you (and any other users on the instance) are subscribed to/are actively being visited?

              I’m not so sure it does copy all content in the background.

              • obosob
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                42 years ago

                Yeah, it’s only communities that people on your instance search for/subscribe to afaik. So if you’re the only one on your instance then you have control over that.

                Further to that it’s only the post objects (and comments, etc.) that is replicated all pics and videos are just URLs. even when you upload a picture with the post, that’s just uploaded to the instance and the link to it is the link of the post, even on other instances the images are fetched from the original source from the client side. I do believe each instance does local thumbnaling.

    • @J_C___@lemmy.place
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      72 years ago

      Also the assurance that your home instance won’t be suddenly federated from one of the major ones

      • s4if
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        32 years ago

        As long as you don’t let your instance become bot/nazi/tanky swarm, you are green…

      • @PriorProject@lemmy.world
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        12 years ago

        Now it’s full of people who aren’t hosting it and it’s not self-hosted for them anymore.

        The idea of a self-hosted community is meaningless. It has to attract people other than the hoster to be useful.

  • LessQuit
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    72 years ago

    I want to self-host but don’t know how to code etc so not sure where to even start

    • @mim@lemmy.sdf.org
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      Never self-hosted Lemmy, but have self-hosted other things in the past. While you don’t necessarily need to code, you need a fair amount of code-adjacent skills. If you ever want to get into self-hosting, you should have a look into (at least):

      • the linux command line
      • ssh
      • how ports work
      • VPS providers
      • DNS registrars
      • nginx
      • docker (while you don’t need it to host things, it makes your life 10x easier)
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        42 years ago

        docker (while you don’t need it to host things, it makes your life 10x easier)

        …until you have a single extra space character hiding 20 lines into your compose file and the whole thing falls over the next time you try to bring the containers up.

        Lint your code and configs every time!

        • @mim@lemmy.sdf.org
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          VScode with “format on save” enabled. Literally never had an issue.

          It’s the editor that finally made me move away from vim

        • @Opeth@lemm.ee
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          Xml wasn’t great but yaml is 2 steps backwards

          Edit: tfw 3months ago

    • fitz
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      22 years ago

      If you are wanting to self-host outside of your home-lab and use a VPS, it is pretty simple. Ubergeek77 has compiled a docker image to easily install it all in like 5 steps. Take a look, https://github.com/ubergeek77/Lemmy-Easy-Deploy

      #Lemmy-Easy-Deploy @ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat

  • @abraham_linksys@sh.itjust.works
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    342 years ago

    I laughed but I dunno about you guys but I don’t publicly self host anything. If you can’t auth via ssh or VPN then you’re not accessing a damn thing from my home network. I’ve got multiple routers that I could set up some isolation with but it’s just too close to home.

      • alaphic
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        32 years ago

        The connection is coming from INSIDE THE house INSTANCE!

      • @abraham_linksys@sh.itjust.works
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        92 years ago

        Can’t get hacked if all your services are down because you can’t get those cocksuckingmothershitbitchingassbastard routing tables right 🤯

    • @somedaysoon@lemmy.world
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      Same here.

      A tasker script automatically connects my phone to the Wireguard tunnel as soon as I disconnect from my home WiFi too, so I always have access to my services. It’s seamless, if I’m streaming music from Airsonic to my phone, and jump on my bike and take off, I don’t even skip a beat on playback.

        • @somedaysoon@lemmy.world
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          12 years ago

          Yep, and it’s also nice to have that buffer when I ride through a few dead zones where I drop data for like 5-10 minutes but I set Ultrasonic to preload/cache 8 songs so it doesn’t disrupt playback then either.

    • @XTornado@lemmy.ml
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      92 years ago

      Me having everything open: Come here mother***s I am waiting for all of you.

      VPNs? Cloudfare? Cloudfare Tunnels? Tailscale? What’s all that? Here we are fighters not pus***s.

      (Just kidding about the previos comments haha, well I have it open but it’s not on my home network… so slightly less problematic and tbh I am planning on closing some stuff, plus all is behind logins, and tbh I kind of like to be able to access to it from anywhere/any computer without having to use any special connection)

      • @kitrune@lemmy.world
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        32 years ago

        Well, now I’m worried about my security. I have an ngrok tunnel running inside a container on a raspberry pi. Do I need to worry about my other devices or if someone tries to attack me only the container is affected?

  • terribleplan
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    52 years ago

    Yeah… it is kinda hypocritical for this community to be based on .world, haha. There are plenty of people here running instances, who wants to volunteer as tribute and to sign up to be on call?

    • @PriorProject@lemmy.world
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      32 years ago

      Well, it’s self-hosting, right. We each host our own server with our own self-hosting community. Alone. No other posters, commenters, or voters. Just each of us in isolation talking to ourselves about our hosting setup.

      This is a dumb meme, there’s no such thing as self-hosting a community. A community only becomes valuable when you share it beyond the hoster, at which point it stops being self-hosted for most community-members. I believe Ruud did actually create this community, which means it is properly self-hosted as much as a successful community can be.

      • @douglasg14b@lemmy.world
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        -22 years ago

        It is, but it’s also on a server that’s crippled by load. Each community having an instance makes sense as far as load goes.

    • @douglasg14b@lemmy.world
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      -12 years ago

      I’ve got business fiber, redundant networking, power, storage, and servers! With a bunch of compute sitting offline atm. Would be willing to give it a shot 🤔

      Needs monitoring though.

    • @WaterSword@lemmy.world
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      12 years ago

      the guy selfhosting lemmy.world, is also the guy that made this community. nothing hypocritical about that.

  • ALERT
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    62 years ago

    Oh my god, I laughed so loudly that I had to explain this comic to my wife. She thought I’m dying already.