Sorry for two new pinned posts within the span of 24 hours. after coming back I figured some of the rules needed some updating, and it is policy to put any rule change up to vote for the members.

The two changes I currently would like to make, is increased enforcement of the moldy posting rule, and a new rule banning AI generated content.

moldy posting is when you post a meme that you would find on your aunt’s Facebook page or Elon musk’s Twitter account. I’m talking properly old, moldy, watermarked, painfully irrelevant posts. I think we should remove them simply because they kind of suck, and removing them would raise the level of quality of 196.

I believe we should ban AI generated content because it is exploitative by nature, and I don’t think we should be feeding it.

please discuss in the comments, and vote on whether or not you think these changes should be made. vote on each change separately. if there are any other rule changes that you would like to suggest, now is the time.

  • @Stovetop@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    141 year ago

    I’m indifferent to outdated and AI content.

    Personally I don’t think it’s worth adding more to the rules than needed, especially when there are already people confused about what counts and what doesn’t.

  • @EndlessApollo@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    3
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    These are very good rules imo, especially the AI. I do like the idea of a Moldy Monday or something though, or being kinda lenient about allowing some on, just because they can be funny in an ironic way

    • MossOPM
      link
      fedilink
      11 year ago

      I’m sorry I’m afraid I don’t understand. what do you mean by that?

      • @thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        31 year ago

        While I’m not good at impersonation, let’s just say that Mac and cheese rules. And once my true intentions are exposed, I’m going to need that lawyer… Lesbians are cool so I’m doing that thing now where I’m stalling and I’m searching for an answer…

  • @Korne127@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    21 year ago

    I disagree with the rule banning AI content. Especially the dumb original imgflip AI can just generate super funny dumb captions to classical meme templates, and there is no harm in doing this (you cannot even decide with 100% certainty whether a human or an AI has generated it).
    I also used to generate dumb nonsense jokes with the early open source LLMs (long before ChatGPT got released).

    I think saying AI content is exploitative in nature is a bit short-sighted and just generalizing about all the different types of AI. If I, e.g. program my own AI to e.g. play a game, and make a meme about that, that’s not exploitative. Imitating people’s art without their consent is something different though.

    I think it would be good to revisit this rule and maybe specify what exact content are not allowed or think about this, since generally there can be good AI meme content (also on a meta-layer, e.g. about people who take obvious fake AI pictures as something real) and just outright banning all of them is a bad idea in my opinion.

  • I am in favor of both of these changes. I always feel lowkey like ive been tricked when i realize im looking at AI art, and the moldy posts just feel like mud to slog through sometimes.

  • Gormadt
    link
    fedilink
    54
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    I’m in favor of the anti AI rule but against the anti moldy posts rule.

    Also, could you remove that image from the post, I almost reported the post for “unflagged NSFW” because of it.

    Edit: Reported it after an hour for the “unflagged NSFW” maybe that will get their attention on removing the image from the post because there’s literally no reason for it to be there.

    • MossOPM
      link
      fedilink
      271 year ago

      gormadt I would like to remind you of our NSFW rules. skimpy clothing is not considered NSFW, and neither are breasts. maybe if it was just the woman on the left, it would count as softcore porn, but in the context of my macaroni is a lesbian by Chuck tingle it is obviously more funny than “sexy”

    • "no" banana
      link
      fedilink
      161 year ago

      Also agree entirely. The moldy posting is funny because it’s not and it deserves to be here.

  • Franzia
    link
    fedilink
    31 year ago

    I think AI isnt exploitative by nature. The companies that own it of course are. AI is better as a technology if you are anti-copyright, as copyright almost universally protects profits of publishers and the owning class rather than creative laborers. However, AI also rarely makes interesting images or posts. Its kinda shit.

    My take is I’m play with banning AI, but if someone in our community had the skills to use it to make quality posts I would be very open to it.

    AI: ban it. Keep an eye open for quality AI posts though. Moldy: Ban it.

  • flamingos-cant
    link
    fedilink
    English
    111 year ago

    Maybe instead of banning mouldy memes, there could be restrictions for when they can be posted. Mouldy Monday or something.

  • @spujb@lemmy.cafe
    link
    fedilink
    English
    5
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    this is me voicing my dissent against the moldy posts rule, including restricting them to mondays. unless presented with a very clear set of examples that we can all (or majority) agree on, i think there’s no real utility to the rule and it just makes me afraid to post an image that i find genuinely funny.

    on a level of pure aesthetics, it also just has a gross feel and i don’t want to log in on mondays to the word ‘moldy’ all over my feed ☹️

    @moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone please reconsider this rule or provide more information on the kind of content you intend on removing. i believe this choice to be contra to the spirit of 196.

    good choice banning AI tho, thanks for that. 👍

  • @HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone
    link
    fedilink
    111 year ago

    Moldyposts were fun ironically, but i’m fine moving past them. I’m also on board with giving toaster generated posts the boot. Also, this comment counts as my post before i leave, see you all next sticky

  • Herbal Gamer
    link
    fedilink
    71 year ago

    I’m curious what the discussions regarding what is or isn’t considered moldy is going to look like.

  • Franzia
    link
    fedilink
    31 year ago

    NGL the thing that will improve the quality of c/196 is getting me to follow the rule and encouraging original posts rather than sharing content. What makes a community great is understanding those who are in it.

  • Katlah
    link
    fedilink
    English
    71 year ago

    I’m fine with banning both of these.

  • @lud@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    81 year ago

    I don’t think this sub should have any more rules.

    Ai images can be very funny. And who cares about moldy images? Just downvote.

      • @lud@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        6
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Forgot about that, lol.

        So stupid.

        I wonder what happens if I downvote you.

        • MossOPM
          link
          fedilink
          21 year ago

          I think it actually does change things but only for your specific instance, rather than globally all instances