I can’t really imagine being close enough to any screen where I need more than 1080p. I’m sitting across the room, not pressing my face against the glass.
I love to see the average iPhone fan (wastes $1000 every year) meet you
It’s so funny to me, for a few hundred more you can get an android that unfolds into a tablet lol if you’re going to drop a grand on a phone why not spend a little more and get something fresh
Credit where it’s due, since the post was about using old devices: iPhones have consistently had some of the longest software support in the industry.
good point, I feel like OP would have a iPhone due to this
I was using an old plasma screen from around 2008/9 for a while until my girlfriend’s sister’s exboyfriend stole it. Their dad gifted me a 55in 4k tv that wasn’t bid on at an auction he was running. That plasma is probably gonna burn down Shithead’s place at some point, it was pretty sketchy.
The only time I replace electronics anymore is when something breaks or when I’m gifted someone else’s hand-me-downs
I have everything on a upgrade list depending on how much we use it and how fast the technology is changing.
Phones: 3 years. Thinking of moving this to 4 or 5 years with the industry’s stagnation. Starting to see some companies offering updates for longer times.
Laptops/desktops: 5-6 years.
Wifi/modem/router: 10 years.
3 years for a phone is very low. Maybe change battery and you can keep it for 3 years more. Though you need to buy phones with custom rom support.
I’m still trying to understand what people do in their phones that they need to run the very latest model with the specs of a laptop. Mine is from 2018 and is doing the job nicely. What am I missing out there?
Most people never use all the specs. If all you are doing is browsing the Internet, watching videos, or playing some simple games, you don’t need much.
I have purchased unlocked mid-range phones for for a while now. Expensive enough to have decent specs but not so cheap that the build quality suffers. When the teenager is dropping the phone 3-4 times per day, a good case and a good build quality is required. 3 years with that type of abuse is about all you’ll get out of it.
I run two phones. For work I get one of the flagship phones. I only pull out my laptop in my office. Most of the time I am using the phone in all weather conditions. I use those specs for thousands of hi-res pictures, data entry etc… all day long. At the end of 3 years it’s toast.
My notebook is 9 years old. My desktop is 6 years old. I haven’t found a reasonable argument to replace them until they stop working. Why 5-6 years?
Why 5-6 years, that’s about when I start seeing the cascade of little things. Weird transitory bugs when rebooting. Speed issues and compatibility issues with bloated new software etc. After that amount of time, I start to spend way too much time maintaining them.
I could tinker with them and keep them going. Its what I used to do when my kids were small. Install a Linux distro on an old computer, load a bunch of educational games and set the browser homepage to PBSkids.
However I have 5 computers to maintain now and my teenagers need compatible fast systems for college and school. My wife works from home at times and needs something that reliably works.
The performance difference between 1080p and 720p on my computer makes me really question if 4k is worth it. My computer isn’t very good because it has an APU and it’s actually shocking what will run on it at low res. If I had a GPU that could run 4k I’d just use 1080p and have 120fps all the time.
1440p is the sweet spot. Very affordable these days to hit high FPS at 1440 including the monitors you need to drive it.
1080@120 is definitely low budget tier at this point.
Check out the PC Builder YouTube channel. Guy is great at talking gaming PC builds, prices, performance.
Tldr: Higher resolutions afford greater screen sizes and closer viewing distances
There’s a treadmill effect when it comes to higher resolutions
You don’t mind the resolution you’re used to. When you upgrade the higher resolution will be nicer but then you’ll get used to it again and it doesn’t really improve the experience
The reason to upgrade to a higher resolution is because you want bigger screens
If you want a TV for a monitor, for instance, you’ll want 4k because you’re close enough that you’ll be and to SEE the pixels otherwise.
You don’t mind the resolution you’re used to. When you upgrade the higher resolution will be nicer but then you’ll get used to it again and it doesn’t really improve the experience
This is sort of how I feel about 3D movies and why I never go to them. After about 20 minutes, I mostly stop noticing the 3D.
As long as don’t know that there is anything better you will love 1080p. Once you have seen 2k you don’t want to switch back. Especially on bigger screens.
On the TV I like 1080p still. I remember the old CRT TVs with just bad resolution. In comparison 1080 is a dream.
However if the video is that high in quality you will like 4k on a big TV even more. But if the movie is only 720p (like most DVDs or streaming Services) then 4k is worse than 1080p you need some upscaling in order to have a clear image now.
I saw a license plate the other day that said “PSX 12” and I was like “they’re not even on 6 yet. Is this guy from the future?”
One of my TVs is 720p. The other is 1080p. The quality is just fine for me. Neither is a ‘smart’ TV and neither connects to the internet.
I will use them until they can no longer be used.
The last TV I owned was an old CRT that was built in the 70s. I repaired it, and connected the NES and eventually the SNES to it. Haven’t had a need for a TV ever since I went to university, joined IT, and gained a steady supply of second hand monitors.
1080P VA panels FTW!
Are they already really talking about the PS6? I’m still using my PS1, 2, and 3!! I’ll never catch up at this rate. I probably will not get the PS5 anyway - I haven’t seen many games that look like they’d justify my buying one.
there was a loose infodrop during the Microsoft buyout of ActBlizz i believe that mentions the PS6 original target year is 2027 (making it 7 years since the PS5 launch). it only feels like the PS5 barely did anything because both Covid and Sony barely pushing out any first party titles. Legit the only 1st party non VR title sony pushed out last year was Spiderman 2.
My 46" Sharp Aquos that I paid $2,000 for in 2004 is still chugging along like a champ. It’s been used nearly daily.
Same here. 40” Sharp Aquos quattron not only still working, but working flawlessly. It’s also got way more inputs than any TV that size today, and a stand that swivels that I use all the time. I’m in no hurry to replace it.
Cherish it (though maybe not its power requirements?) - based on the big ole chunky bois I’ve seen at the dump 📺 (looked like those rear projector models or something).
bro i just want full raytracing-
This will either require AMD to go hard on ray tracing or for console manufacturers to get their video hardware from Nvidia, which will be far more expensive.
Though after some brief searching, my literal terminology may apply to AMD’s strategy: https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/rdna-5-ray-tracing
Think we’re still a few gens from that.
I enjoy 4k on the monitors I sit only a few inches from all day, but so far I find it hard to justify a whole chain of upgrades for the living room when I think the picture quality already looks great at 10+ feet away or whatever . To be clear, I mean I don’t see the need to upgrade the living room from 1080p to 4k, let alone beyond that
It really depends on the size of tv. It’s like a cinema screen, you want very high resolutions for that even though it’s far away, because it’s a large size
It depends on how much of your FOV the screen covers, since it’s the angular resolution of our eyes that matters.
I think mine is 56 or 58 inches. A lot of people have commented that it’s large. It feels like the right size to me /shrug
It depends how far it is, and personal preference.
4k makes a massive difference for me on my TV, I’ll opt for it whenever I can. But it’s all personal preference and circumstance which is good to remember.
Your situation isn’t the same as everyone’s, theirs a valid use for 1080p but also for 4k
Certainly. I was only talking about my experience. When things break I’ll upgrade. But surprisingly to even me when I focus on the video quality on my TV, it’s still holding up well
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Home cinemas could make use of 8k, but we’re talking about 4k in this thread
It’s funny that we got to retina displays, which were supposed to be the highest resolution you’d ever need for the form factor, and then manufacturers just kept making higher and higher resolutions anyway because Number Go Up. I saw my first 8K laptop around this time and the only notable difference was that the default font size was unreadable.
I’ve never even had 4K. All I have is 1080p and that’s fine.
Same. I can’t tell a huge difference between 1080p and 4k, if I’m being honest.
haven’t tried it but I’m pretty sure you can’t tell 8K from 4K anyway
Hell, I can’t tell ANY difference (though I do need glasses so maybe that’s got to do with it)
Small print text rendering is where you’ll see the difference.
Game graphics, whatever, but if you have to do a lot of reading or coding, you can make the text smaller and still stays crystal clear.
I see, that’s fair, my experience is pretty much just with gaming
I can tell a difference, but not enough to be worth the cost.
Yeah and once you’re deep into playing… you stop caring about that stuff and focus on the game.
1080 vs 2k is pretty clear to me, but I have a hard time telling the difference between 2k and 4k.
Can you get a 2k tv? I thought we jumped to 4k.
I have a 2k monitor, not a TV
Context matters a lot. On a 27" monitor, it makes a pretty decent difference. On a 50" TV at 10+ ft…meh?
I have a 4k TV, it legitimately is no better than 1080 lmao
There’s a very noticeable difference, but it’s nothing like the difference between SD and HD. It’s pretty, but not that pretty. I prefer the performance (and proper scaling for my computer) of 1080, even on a 55" screen
Could this be a configuration issue? I can’t talk out of experience but I’d assume it would be quite a bit better.
Thanks for the info anyway.
P.s. I’m not the person who downvoted you. I don’t do that when disagreeing.
I don’t play games on my TV but I have a really old 1080p one with a native Plex and YouTube apps with no nonsense. I have seen the ads and other stupid bullshit modern tvs come with, I’m going to be fixing this TV up until my dying breath.
