They all want to give you just enough control to make you think you chose what their algorithm recommended for you.
The other day I went Tumblr to make sure that I’d turned off their opt-out AI data mining and literally could not find the login page. I eventually had to use the URL in my password DB. Turns out I’d deleted my account already. Good riddance.
Oh yeah, I forgot to do that when I read about it the other day. Thank you for the reminder!
I just started TemTem and the UI there is just CLUNKY.
Just use a 3rd party a…h, crap.
You forgot Spotify
Wait what are the big gripes with the Spotify UI? It works well for my purposes so genuinely curious
I’ve been using Spotify since it came out and I’m starting to feel it’s time to move on soon. My main gripe is that the UI is getting less user-focused and more interested in pushing content and shitty social media-like features. It’s getting bloated and annoying. Plus of course whatever major labels are pushing gets weighted in search results and recommendations. Just a few days ago I got a marketing pop-up (“what QUESTION would you like music to answer for you?!”) which feels like the last straw. I paid for premium, I know what I want to listen to, just get out of the way. And if you absolutely must have some shitty “reels/shorts”, give me the option to turn them off. (I see my kids wanting to listen to a song, getting distracted by some crappy flashing video, swiping around for a while, then exiting the app out of boredom. Luckily they have parents that can help them understand music from a different perspective than 20-second endorphin flashes.)
I guess I’ll just go to Bandcamp full time and piracy if I want to listen to something before I buy a physical copy.
One of my daughter’s favorite songs is 32-seconds long.
It’s called “I Like Short Songs” and it’s by the Dead Kennedys and it’s on their album Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death, recorded in 1979. She laughed really hard when she first heard it and has loved it ever since.
Short punk songs have been around for a long time.
“Rick Wakeman eat your heart out!”
You’re raising her right
Well yes, that’s not really what I’m talking about here. I play old HC albums around the house all the time, though they don’t really like screaming vocals (perhaps that’ll change with puberty…). It’s more the zeitgeist of just hearing 20-second snippets of songs and skipping around that’s problematic to me. It fosters an ADD mindset for everyone, not just kids.
I guess that’s not a thing my kid does. She listens to songs in their entirety.
Mine do too, most of the time. I’m trying to make a point about what kind of user behavior spotify UI (and similar apps) encourage and that it’s not a good thing, for kids or adults or for music in general.
Fair enough.
20-second endorphin flashes.
your kids are into Grindcore?
Not yet, though I play some Napalm Death or Brutal Truth records now and then to sneak it in there
I still dont understand why they had to make playlists/albums/artists/etc “filters” or hashtags or whatever you call them, and blend all the different types of items in a single page…
Bro Spotify is number one there.
Youtube is not bad, but Discord makes me feel like a boomer.
I really don’t get Discord. Why would I want all of my chats in different top-level sections? I much prefer just having a list of groups that I am a part of. I do like sorting them into priority and low priority but that is all I want and it is independent of “server”.
Discord servers aren’t meant to be chats, they are meant to be large communities, like subreddits. Discord is a hybrid between a chat app and a social media platform for meeting new people and joining large communities (that’s the intention of the design, at least)
Discord doesn’t know what it wants to be, they just copied IRC without understanding why it was that way. Catered to gamers due to adding voicechat, then panicked and got confused by the surge of Slack, so they tried to be all serious, but not really, it’s a whole mess.
The point of servers and channels used to have a very direct and straight forward relationship with reality, it mapped one to one to actual physical servers and internal protocol structures. Discord doesn’t need to have servers and channels, to them they are communities and chat topics. But they don’t need to be that either. It is stupid and mind boggling, like Twitter clones using 150 character limits, that made sense when the platform was SMS exclusive, but why would you have such an artificial limitation in a platform that doesn’t even admit SMS input? Other than chasing some platform nostalgia or ideological extremism about platform format.
they just copied IRC without understanding why it was that way
I believe it was clearly inspired fully by Slack, rather than IRC. I don’t think there was anything they copied from IRC specifically, and nobody in their target audience (gamers) was using IRC at the time discord blew up, so I don’t think that was their intention
But I agree it is a silly use of the word “server” to refer to groups of channels. Internally Discord actually calls them guilds. Server might also be gaming lingo they were targeting (so people would think of joining a Discord server as akin to joining e.g. a Minecraft server)
I actually like the top-level server structure. A community has user roles which control access to certain channels, the permissions can be either channel-specific or server-wide, and the roles are hierarchal with permission overrides specific to users. It makes it possible to have public chats with tens of thousands of users not be overcrowded, and have content organized into different spaces (memes, media, help/support, general, etc.) which just couldn’t be done on Skype, which was all people in this demographic were using at the time. And the idea of hierarchal management of permissions and roles allowed moderation of large communities, so everybody moved due to convenience.
Discord doesn’t make me feel like a boomer, but only because boomers would never burn down a corporate office.
Discord’s UX is fantastic, thats part of the reason we all migrated from Skype. It’s just a recent redesign they made to their mobile app, that is most likely what this meme is referring to
People were using Skype as a chat room? Why?
It’s just what everyone used in like 2016. Skype for text, and sometimes teamspeak for voice. Discord’s marketing was all about having them both in one service.
Hulu on Smart TVs wins the race by a mile.
Clearly, you’ve never used Paramount+
Reddit was by far the worst.
The UI of Youtube is actually not bad. What is bad is how the search function has gone to shit, constant promotion of youtube Shorts taking up half the screen, and the algorithm getting steadily worse at recommending videos.
The interface itself is pretty easy to navigate.https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=REPLACETHISQUERY&sp=CAI%253D
this string isn’t too bad. there are some others but this is my default query string.
imo loading several video recommendations while im just scrolling through comments is very bad, especially because the API calls are seperate and load both sides seperately. huge waste of bandwith when im only interested in the text, which is barely any bandwidth
I do feel like the mobile app has been getting progressively buggier over the last year. Maybe it’s just me but the mini-player has been glitching out for months and other weird stuff has been getting more prevalent like yesterday I had the YouTube play button icon stretched and distorted as an overly across the whole app until I restarted it and creating a queue didn’t work until I started a new video manually.
I hate the app so much, it always starts to play random shit while I’m just browsing/searching.
I couldn’t tell you. I ditched it for GrayJay since it was in alpha and couldn’t be happier.
I really don’t like how hitting the back button minimizes the currently playing video instead of going back to the previous played video, personally
Youtube 2012 loaded in 1 second on a 5MBit line. HTML, CSS and JS for a page was a few hundred kilobytes.
You can profile the current “responsive” version in your browser. It might not look horrible but it’s a technical abomination. I doubt it’ll even load anymore in a browser from 2012.
100% certain that if they kept their 2012 UI, we’d be complaining about how outdated their UI is.
No? That would be true if we were the Twitter community. But, for Lemmy, I am pretty sure most people that are on Lemmy fancy Reddit’s outdated old.reddit.com UI as well because it’s more simple. Things are much lighter, but still work.
Well luckily we don’t use browsers from 2012. Thanks god for that. Modern browsers and web standards are so much better.
One button left called “Watch Ad” and it spans the whole screen.
YouTube isn’t even following material design 3…
i like the YouTube ui excluding the channel page
Discord always had the worst UI I’ve ever seen. Followed by Snapchat.
Discord’s new mobile app is fucking unusable sometimes. Sometimes I just stuck with that add picture pop up and nothing I do will make it go away.
Not to mention that all of the controls disappear off the screen the second you don’t click on them so you can’t just mute yourself conveniently you have to tap the screen twice to bring up the icon to click so you can mute yourself but sometimes it doesn’t recognize when you click on the screen.
I’m just impressed with how unbelievably terrible that app has gotten. I didn’t even think about it before, It was just simple to use.
Tapping a notification doesn’t take me to the message, but rather to the DMs list, where the app promply gets stuck, so I have to restart it.
It’s not only horrible, it’s straight up buggy. What I don’t understand is why they wanted to make their app a shitty Facebook Messenger clone in the first place.
It was horrible before. On the other hand nobody should use Discord, I wish the bad UI would turn off people to use it at all.
coming from slack I actually found discord rather intuitive, snapchat on the other hand…I never understood what kind of freek would want to take a selfie the first thing they open a social app
Yall must not work in manufacturing.
How many of your machines use Comic Sans font on the operator touchscreen?
And how many times has someone had to pull the PLC programming to resize the button clip art jpegs to fix and overlap that caused the machine to run 2 different functions at the same time if they tapped too close to one side?
Anyone who thinks that these three have the worst UI possible has never had to deal with a really bad UI. Try Sharepoint on for size. Or Azure. Or Jira. And there’s likely still way worse stuff than those.
Azure is so bad!
Microsoft stuff is always … very consistently microsoft lol it almost feels like they tried too hard to make it looks simple on the surface, and then ended up shoving all the rest randomly in drawers/cabinets/boxes/wherever…
Jira got too useful for its own good.
I hate sharepoint so much.
For a tool whose purpose is to share stuff, I sure have a hard time finding things in it.
