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I just read an article about a browser… That somehow included a court case about hulk hogan being gay or not… I had to stop right there lol.
Why has no one forked brave yet?
I hadn’t read the details of their intended ad network. I just recall it sounded shady. Now that I read about it, it sounds very similar conceptually to Google’s Privacy Sandbox. I’m not sure if this is a better or worse approach than the status quo but I surely don’t trust Brave Inc, a startup with a questionable business model and investors, with gathering and processing this data.
What do you use if you need a Chromium browser for something specific?
Chromium.
Stop doing that specific thing. You’ll live.
(Or just use Ungoogled Chromium for the time being, until you learn to stop doing what you’re doing.)
Ignoring all other concerns, Brave is simply the buggiest browser I’ve ever used, both on desktop and mobile. It’s the only one where I have to regularly switch to a different browser due to sites not loading properly.
Anyone here ragging on brave that is on a Windows platform has got a real funky view of privacy. By percentage, that is probably most.
Long time Brave user here. This made me uninstall Brave and move to Firefox. Thank you !
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tldr?
Brave is great and i will continue to use it.
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I dont know why anyone would leave chrome and land on something like brave.
If youre ditching chrome, which you should, go to an actual different browser and use Firefox.
I was using Chrome as a secondary because unfortunately “designed for Chrome” is a thing now, and got sick of Google’s bullshit and thought I was doing better by going to Brave. Unfortunately, it quickly became clear that Brave has its own large ethical holes.
Ungoogled Chromium is a great option for a back up. It’s lightweight and works well
When I need a Chromium browser I use Vivaldi. I quite like it!
Firefox and gecko are just not as smooth. I don’t know how you don’t notice this, especially on Android.
Personal anecdote:
When I initially decided to drop Chrome, I moved to Brave because - as a chromium-based browser - it supported the same set of extensions I’d grown accustomed to.
That being said, the crypto stuff weirded me out enough that, once I’d weaned myself off the extensions, I switched to Firefox.
You can use Waterfox if you want a Firefox fork that supports Chromium extensions.
What extensions does chrome have which are useful that Firefox doesn’t?
My only recurring issue with Firefox, which may have been fixed I dunno, is it for some reason it “isn’t officially supported” or whatever exact wording to use hardware security keys (like yubikey, which I use on every account that allows it). It’s only certain websites that don’t want to work though. Like google, Microsoft and many others were fine but I think paypal didn’t want to work properly but it does work on Edge, Chrome, probably Brave. Overall annoying as fuck at times but I deal with it to be out of Google’s-world
at the time; the great suspender (although that’s dead on chrome now too)
project naptha is the only one that has stuck with me since i left chrome, and has no firefox alternative to my knowledge
Shrug, it’s been a while and I don’t remember which affected my decision at the time.
You can probably get around your paypal problems by telling them your Firefox is Chrome.
https://github.com/ray-lothian/UserAgent-SwitcherOnly one I missed was PushBullet, it was the easiest way to text from browser and get articles from phone/computer. Nothing I’ve tried on Firefox has worked as well
Chromium has metric shit tons of work done that seems to perform great. What I would love to see is for Mozilla to fork Chromium, staff it with enough people to maintain it, add/remove the features they feel are appropriate/inappropriate, and thus reuse the tons of free work Google and others have already done. As a software engineer, I don’t buy the argument that it’s easier to correctly implement every new web feature anew than maintaining a fork. Every large org that ships anything based on Android for example maintains a fork of an even bigger codebase. It’s not as complicated as people make it out to be. It’s not a new problem and there are strategies to manage it. If Mozilla does this, they’ll be able to play an active role in steering by far the biggest rendering engine’s direction, instead of playing opposition with no stake in it. Now downvote away! 😄
The more market share chrome based browsers have, the easier it is for google to inflict their agenda for the internet on everyone. If firefox didnt exist, every web developer would be optimizing their sites only for chrome, and responding quickly to any change google wants to make.
It really doesn’t matter what Firefox’es codebase is though. To a web developer it’s a black box. It may as well be COBOL. So long as enough people use it and it behaves differently to a web developer than Google’s Chromium or Chrome, the goal you mentioned is achieved. This is why I don’t buy this argument.
I am using Brave mainly because of its superb YouTube support - It has a built in ad block, can download videos offline and play minimized. Is there any way I can achieve this with any other browser? I would switch immediately.
Streaming services seem to lower bitrate when I’m using Firefox vs Brave, so Brave is my go to for streaming.
I use Firefox for everything else.
I use it as my hardened Firefox doesn’t play well with some government and bank sites
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Brave is the only browser I know that can play youtube videos in the background on mobile. Please tell me another browser that can do that. The UX is just really good.
Why not use NewPipe?
Vivaldi can do that, there is an option in settings. Firefox mobile does that with an addon.
I’ve tried Firefox several times but always end up back on chromium due to compatibility; a lot of sites don’t play well with anything but chrome anymore and this is very much something intentionally caused by Google, who have basically taken a page out of Microsoft’s playbook but with a much more mature product that is going to be substantially harder to replace then IE was
Also, if you going to completely ditch chrome/chromium, also stop using Electron apps (which have chromium/Chromium Embedded Framework on them!)
What if the apps aren’t for online use?
That’s gonna be quite difficult, unfortunately
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I really enjoy brave on desktop and mobile. Other mobile browsers turn every internet interaction into chaos with all the popups and ads (even let’s you use YouTube in the background with its playlist feature on mobile). I read the article and I didn’t understand why the product itself was bad? CEO did some stuff that the writer (and me) doesn’t agree with, doesn’t make it a crappy product though?
I use brave to keep a secret set of tabs so my wife won’t see my jerk off material on chrome.
Pretty useful for that actually
