Edit: because a few comments make me worry that some are taking this seriously - this meme is a play on the type of hopeless dating posts you might find in less healthy corners of the internet. The joke is a suggestion that the real problem is that one man in the image has some sort of arrow-attracting superpower.

  • @mydoomlessaccount@infosec.pub
    link
    fedilink
    19
    edit-2
    20 days ago

    Damn, people just straight-up don’t care about the content of an image if they see an opportunity to go on a tangent.

    I wonder how ridiculous you have to make the text- paired with a pictograph of a problematic take like the original for this one- before people realize it’s not actually repeating the original sentiment or even saying anything at all

  • @Asafum@feddit.nl
    link
    fedilink
    10221 days ago

    So what you’re saying is to go to an archery field to find a woman! I’ve been doing it wrong the whole time!

  • 𝔗𝔢𝔯 𝔐𝔞𝔵𝔦𝔪𝔞
    link
    fedilink
    English
    821 days ago

    The irony of the original graph is that if you draw the arrows that go the other way, they’re symmetrical.

    Of course people are more attracted to attractive people. That’s literally why it’s called “being attractive”.

  • @psycho_driver@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    43
    edit-2
    21 days ago

    This is absolutely how online dating goes. There have been studies that show women always go for the most attractive guys on the site, despite whatever BS they might claim.

    Real life, not necessarily.

    • @perestroika@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      24
      edit-2
      21 days ago

      A more detailed description:

      Provided a card stack system, the dynamic balance of liking vs. skipping tends to stabilize into a state where men like everyone reasonably cute (“to get more chances”). This is also caused by their inability search for a conversation partner in a rational manner, because it’s a card stack system. Often enough, all the information you have is a photo, age and city.

      This causes women to experience a saturation of likes: everyone likes them. This causes them to be extremely picky about who they like back.

      The result: unbalance. Dating sites view women as a “resource” to attract men, and men as customers to be scammed out of money to actually show their profile to someone, once in a while.

    • But what’s attractive is very subjective especially for women. Yes there are some general things being somewhat fit, decent hygiene, symmetrical proportions but there are plenty of studies that show women find the same man with a wide range of attractiveness vs men who have a much more narrow and agreed upon what is attractive. One thing that’s more consistent is appearance of wealth makes men more attractive to most women.

    • @mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      1721 days ago

      No, it’s like that irl too. I’m in a dance community and women are routinely all hooking up with the same handful of guys, and then being shocked that they’re not the only one booking up with that guy. It was like that in yoga when I was in yoga too

    • @Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      1921 days ago

      There was a blog by the creator of OKcupid, which was available on the site, that laid all this out pretty clearly. Something like 80% of the women were after 20% of the men, or perhaps it was even worse than that.

      Women also, on average, rated men something like 1.5/5, whereas the average for men rating women was almost exactly 3/5.

      It was a pretty depressing read actually.

      • 2ugly2live
        link
        fedilink
        9
        edit-2
        20 days ago

        You have to also look at the fact that men outnumber women on the app overall. It’s about 65% men, so women are going to have a bigger pool to reject from. And while it is true that women rate men less attractive, they also put less value on their apperence overall as a factor in dating. It also came out that this was based off of first glance only with no review of the profiles attached to them and, when looking at overall trends, it’s more even, (outside of men tending to like young women regardless of their age).

        I think the okcupid data also went on about how certain races get more or less attention as well. At the end of the day, both sides can be picky. I think people like to push that data to help with the “80/20” idea to help push this idea that men are now being unfairly judged in comparison to women to help with the gender war narrative.

        Edit: Just wanted to add that I don’t think that means dating isn’t hard for men, but I just don’t believe dating websites to be a reflection of real life.

      • @Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        121 days ago

        This says more about how women are socially pressured to wear make up, dress well, wax, and de-age themselves or risk being labeled as ‘unwomanly’ or become irrelevant.

        How many men do you know feel pressured to put the same effort into their appearances as the average woman does?

        And don’t tell me how working out counts. One, there are zero health benefits to putting on make up. Two, women are incessantly reminded about losing weight rather than just be healthy whether it’s from the media, advertisements, or just people using ‘fat’ as an insult especially for middle aged women.

        How often do you hear old women being complimented on their appearances compared to old men? Forget about appearances, how often are they relevant in conversations? Invisible Woman Syndrome is almost like a super power.

        • @WraithGear@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          421 days ago

          This is like the opposite of when people complain that when ever anyone tries to talk about women issues, men have to suddenly make it about them. I don’t know why this has to be a zero sum event here.

    • @LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      621 days ago

      I suspect that women have dual mode sexual selection: Either dad material then attractiveness doesn’t matter as much as stable personality and material conditions, or someone with attractive exceptional genes. Meanwhile men will only judge by attractiveness but men (including the attractive ones) will still fuck anything.

      Basically game theory and the structure of dating apps makes women only be able to select for the first criteria.

      • @iAvicenna@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        4
        edit-2
        21 days ago

        good point but I imagined this one guy does not impregnate all of these women but it is of course possible to go full Elon Musk if he thinks he is destined to save humanity

      • Natanael
        link
        fedilink
        921 days ago

        It’s not really. Worldwide population is still growing. Countries which are simultaneously highly developed and not incentivizing child birth have low birth rates.

        • Redex
          link
          fedilink
          221 days ago

          Countries which are simultaneously highly developed and not incentivizing child birth have low birth rates.

          That is literally the entirety of the developed world. China as well is/will be now experiencing a rapid population decline as its birth rate drops drastically. The only developed countries with anything close to a sustainable population growth are those that have a lot of immigration, but that isn’t a viable fix forever (at some point the countries that are sources of immigrants will become developed themselves and have the same problems), and typically only first generation immigrants have more children than natives.

    • irelephant [he/him]🍭
      link
      fedilink
      English
      120 days ago

      You should read the edit.

      Edit: because a few comments make me worry that some are taking this seriously - this meme is a play on the type of hopeless dating posts you might find in less healthy corners of the internet. The joke is a suggestion that the real problem is that one man in the image has some sort of arrow-attracting superpower.

      • @SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        620 days ago

        Ignoring the issue with jokes doesn’t help anyone.

        Mocking incels doesn’t make them better.

        It feels good though.

        This is reddit behavior.

  • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed
    link
    fedilink
    English
    921 days ago

    Delete all the text and this diagram looks like:

    One male medieval era soldier fighting for an oppressive patriarchy, in a battle where his fellow soldiers surrendered after realizing they are the baddies, surrounded by an army of women-only skilled archers fighting for egalitarianism.

    • ☂️-
      link
      fedilink
      8
      edit-2
      21 days ago

      they just killed a random innocent dude though :(

  • @perestroika@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    31
    edit-2
    21 days ago

    Society is borked in many ways, and dating sites often reinforce this with their policies.

    The Wikipedia article about online dating tells that typical (I assume: card stack, like / dislike) dating sites cause different genders to adopt different strategies:

    Men liked a large proportion of the profiles they viewed, but received returning likes only 0.6% of the time; women were much more selective but received matches 10% of the time. Men received matches at a much slower rate than women. Once they received a match, women were far more likely than men to send a message, 21% compared to 7%, but they took more time before doing so.

    By sending out questionnaires to frequent Tinder users, the researchers discovered that the reason why men tended to like a large proportion of the women they saw was to increase their chances of getting a match. This led to a feedback loop in which men liked more and more of the profiles they saw while women could afford to be even more selective in liking profiles because of a greater probability of a match.[15]

    P.S.

    My biggest peeve is that the monopolist Match Group (runs Tinder, bought and ruined OkCupid, etc) and its nearest competitor Bumble have both adopted a card stack system that makes searching impossible. They also won’t display any statistics to a user about the number of people who saw their profile - keeping their customer in perfect darkness.

    In most fields of life, a customer would not be satisfied with this kind of shit. A company advertising their product would demand instant feedback about the number and profile of people who viewed their ad, where they came from, how long they browsed, etc.

    Basically, we are all getting scammed by a few monopolists, who are actively ruining people’s ability to find partners. I would support a politician who promises to let the best university in the country to build a non-profit dating site.

    • @vrojak@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      521 days ago

      What is okcupid like nowadays? I found a partner there like 7 years ago and out of all the dating sites I’ve tried, it was the best by a good margin.

      • @perestroika@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        6
        edit-2
        21 days ago

        It no longer respects geographical preferences. Here in Estonia, if you go on OkCupid from Tallinn, you see about 30 Finnish people from Helsinki (across the sea, 80 km away) before you encounter a local (you also get 30 likes from Central Africa and South-East Asia).

        It also has the card stack system now.

        The question system remains and remains helpful, just the rest is broken.

        • @vrojak@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          921 days ago

          Oh come on the lack of a stack system was such a positive. I loved how I could look over all profiles around me, see who managed to write more than 10 words about themselves and just send them a message. I guess that system just worked to well, I never felt the need to pay for anything