GM confirms $130,000 Cadillac Escalade IQ won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto | GM said it was going to drop Apple CarPlay and Android Auto in all vehicles, and now, that includes Cadillac’s l…::Cadillac confirms its new Google built-in infotainment leaves no room for Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. Instead, Google built-in is running the 55-inch infotainment screen.
I’m not sure a lot of you are reading that they are replacing ACP and AA with built in Google apps, including Google maps for navigation; they aren’t eliminating the functionality, they are replacing it.
I think I would prefer this over slaving my phone to the car because there are some real annoying things about AA when I try to use it while connected to my car. The only big question is: do they require separate Internet connection or can I use my unlimited data plan phone as a hotspot. Having to pay for more connection services would piss me off, however I read somewhere a few weeks back that connecting to the Internet via a hotspot was supported.
I have wireless AA on my Civic and I literally get in the car, turn it on, and my phone connects automatically. It’s very convenient. What issues have you run into?
Well, unfortunately I don’t have wireless AA, so the cable can sometimes be an issue. Beyond that, they aren’t huge issues, but if I need to look something up in maps it won’t let me. I know, I’m not supposed to use while driving, but if I’m at a light and I want to do a quick detour search I can’t use the handheld (dash interface isn’t as easy to use as handheld). The contact search\phone app doesn’t work as easily for me and I find the voice search to be spotty.
Like I said not big issues, but mostly just preference; I’d rather have my phone separate and free from restriction as I only use the maps through AA. My phone calls and audiobooks\podcasts we’re always fine through Bluetooth.
My solution to that is I use Waze for turn by turn navigation on the car screen and then I can pop open Google maps on my phone for the occasional quick search. If I need to update my route then I’ll ask Waze to add a stop.
That’s a good idea. I should do that. Also, thanks for being someone who understands wanting to search stuff while in the turn by turn mode. It’s hard to explain WHY I would need this, but it seems like something I experience at least once a week.
Fair enough. I do admit, I went through a number of USB cables in a previous car that didn’t have wireless. However, I don’t really see how restricting access to AA would solve your maps issue. So, rather than not being able to use your phone to look up a detour (which I have done, by unplugging my phone, selecting a new route, then plugging it back in, which isn’t great), you now just look up a detour on your phone and then what? Don’t use the car’s navigation at all?
I use a wireless adapter similar to this one. https://blakadder.com/android-auto-wireless-adapter/
I had no idea this existed, thank you so much!
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I would happily keep slaving my phone to my car to avoid paying for extra services.
I think we agree on that point, as I started.
According to ars google maps and assistant are free for 8 years. Everything else they will charge for.
Back to Bluetooth and Google maps on your phone after the free data period ends. Such a bad move for consumers.
I still don’t understand why car brands don’t just use Android Automotive anyway. Most native infotainment systems in cars still look and feel like they’re from the early 2000s.
That 55-inch interface they’re showing off really looks like some weird 2006-ish concept.
Edit: Apparently, it’s running “Google built-in” which means that this particular system is based on Android Automotive OS and it’s just running some proprietary launcher on top.
I wonder how long before they stop pushing updates to it
That’s implying that they’ll push updates at all
Subscription based for a few years z then they’ll just drop it
We all know that the look of the interface will stay the same throughout the lifetime of the car. At least with CarPlay or Android Auto, it represents the interface of your phone. CarPlay is a hard requirement for my vehicles.
Nissan stopped updating the navigation for my 2016 car last year.
So… Pretty shit
I remember when updates to cars were called product recalls and they only happened in exceptional circumstances.
Give it some time and there will be a guide to replacing the whole thing with a raspberry pi and cheap screen from Ali express.
It will also probably have more functionality and be less awful to use.
Fuck all these proprietary systems with their locked down ecosystems. Its blatantly planned obsolescence and will cause a ton of e waste. But fuck it as long as some shareholder is happy right.
Or, better yet, an alu plate and some soldered switches and knobs
Call me crazy, but the way the bottom control screen is off centered from the central nav/infotainment bit above it looks horrible and I can’t imagine buying such an expensive car with such an annoying design.
Does anyone actually use either of those though? It’s always been more easy and convenient for me to just use my own phone.
Android auto IS using your own phone.
A crippled version of my phone.
What exactly are you doing on your phone while driving besides listening to music and/or using maps?
Listening to YouTube, playing music from my sd card. Changing routing instructions. Adding stops along the way. Avoiding highways, allowing highways. Asking what the exchange rate between the euro abd the dollar is. Asking if European chickens are smaller than American chickens. (And probably other things)
Typing in maps addresses that are too complex for the voice recognition to understand.
You should still be able to do that on the car touchscreen just like the old Tom Tom etc…
They also forget that sometimes there is a passenger wanting to do this, it’s not always just the driver in the car.
If there’s a passenger, at least in my car, the system recognizes it and let’s one type with the touchscreen.
Not that I needed any more, but I’ll take reason I’ll never own a GM for $5000 Alex.
Lack of AA isn’t the problem, it’s the 130k for that hideous monstrosity.
Eh. I have no CarPlay in my 2016 Prius and the proprietary system they have only makes me almost crash my car 30% of the time I use it so I can’t complain.
I would literally walk out of the dealership
laughing, too
The only reasonable response to walking into a GM dealership
“You will own nothing and be happy”. The overall push of the whole tech industry is towards the SaaS model, where you would need to pay an endless list of third party services annual subscriptions in order to have some reasonable experience.
This is the only way for them to sustain the endless growth spiral their shareholders require. Sad days for humanity.
Y’know what would be great?
An industry standard system that would work properly with any type of phone, tablet or other mobile device.
Preferably one that doesn’t run like shit.
And while we’re at it, require physical nobs/buttons for basic navigation/climate control for safety purposes.
nobs
This made me laugh more than it should’ve.
And while we’re at it, require physical nobs/buttons for basic navigation/climate control for safety purposes.
AbsoFuckingLutely
We’ll, that’s a move.
General Motos, you are a bold one.
Oh my, since when do cars have HDMI in? That’s real luxury.
my friend has a ‘15 Honda Fit with a factory HDMI input - apparently it can be used when parked to project to the infotainment screen but I haven’t seen that feature used or on another vehicle since
55” infotainment screen, in a fucking vehicle? That’s what I have in my living room. 🤯
yeah but it’s like 5" high.
with an aspect ratio of 20:1 across the entire dash.
