• @WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.ml
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    494 days ago

    As someone brand new to Lemmy I’m now learning a lot of horrible new info on myself based on arbitrarily signing up for a random instance.

    I didn’t realize I was supposed to psychically know about lemmy lore before ever using it.

    • JackbyDev
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      204 days ago

      Please understand that plenty of us do not judge people based on instance at all. I genuinely don’t care.

    • HatchetHaro
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      184 days ago

      there’s always going to be this stigma against .ml users due to how the .ml instance was formed and how the general userbase behaves.

      the good news is that you are always free to switch instances if you find out that you dislike the instance you are currently on. while your posts, comments, and “karma” won’t transfer, you can transfer everything else such as the communities you follow, your settings, and your blocklist.

    • @octopus_ink@slrpnk.net
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      4 days ago

      FWIW, I left .ml after about a year (and around a month ago) because there were just enough threads shit flinging and just enough posts like below, and just enough people who would dismiss any argument based on seeing .ml that it annoyed the shit out of me.

      Not for how anyone at .ml ever treated me. (And FTR I’m not a communist)

      So I’d say how much you worry about it is up to you, but switching instances is also pretty easy.

    • Diva (she/her)
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      104 days ago

      didn’t you know that signing up for an instance is actually evidence of thoughtcrime?

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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        23 days ago

        Every person who signed up for my favorite instance is gold, everyone who signed up for the one I dislike is actually a troll and must be de federated.

    • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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      74 days ago

      Just drop them like it’s hot, lose nothing of value. There is probably an instance local to your nation or you can use .world which is a generic nonspecific Lemmy except they defederate from Hexbear and Lemmygrad because those instances spam so much bot content trying to convince users to off their families and neighbors.

    • @Rhoeri@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      It takes nothing to create a new Lemmy account. And there are tons of instances that don’t have authoritarian admins.

    • @Dogyote@slrpnk.net
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      64 days ago

      Don’t worry much about your instance. .ml is fine, but Lemmygrad.ml in particular is a very strange place. Have a look if you want to read what non-religious people hostile to the United States/West think. Sometimes they make good points but they’re such fundamentalist assholes about everything.

      • horse
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        204 days ago

        tbf, if you’re not hostile to the US at this point, I’d seriously question your sanity. You don’t need to be a tankie for that.

    • AlterEgoTest
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      64 days ago

      Most of us don’t judge users but we are internally vocal about our own social challenges.

      .ml is a big instances and people coming from the old web find such attractive, it feels like “the official one” we are well aware.

      The have been attempts to advertise avoiding those but were not exactly a well coordinated organization.

      Regardless the ideology of .ml and others big instances pose a problem in centralized power. Lemmy works best as many tiny servers organically building a network of content and ideas.

      All of Lemmy is accessible as long as your instance is federated (almost all) however some may defederate from those problematic big ones, limiting the posts you can see.

      You wont lose much by changing instance right now. There is no karma or rewards associated with your account. You can also make multiple on different instances with the same user name so you have a backup if your main instance goes down.

      • Diva (she/her)
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        the ideology of .ml and others big instances pose a problem in centralized power.

        it’s not centralized, .world is considerably bigger and way more conservative, like it even has a splinter /c/196 populated with everyone who thought neo pronouns and basic levels of respect were too hard

        • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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          54 days ago

          it’s not centralized, .world is considerably bigger and way more conservative, like it even has a splinter /c/196 populated with everyone who thought neo pronouns and basic levels of respect were too hard

          It’s funny that you still feel the need to spread this slander. Almost like you’re still upset that you spent months defending a blatant troll using an old conservative canard.

          • Diva (she/her)
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            it’s not that hard to have basic levels of respect for people using neo pronouns, and if they’re trolling then let them slip up and get banned for that.

            it’s just an observed pattern of behavior that .world has a lot of cis people who misgender people when they disagree with them like it’s an argument

            • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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              64 days ago

              it’s not that hard to have basic levels of respect for people using neo pronouns, and if they’re trolling then let them slip up and get banned for that.

              Okay? Where does that play into your slander about the .world 196 being filled with people who don’t respect neopronouns?

              it’s just an observed pattern of behavior that .world has a lot of cis people who misgender people when they disagree with them like it’s an argument

              So now it’s not the .world 196, it’s .world in general.

              • Diva (she/her)
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                So now it’s not the .world 196, it’s .world in general.

                there was a pretty clear reason they left and went to .world, they fit the culture better there

                I don’t even use /196 I was just watching from the sidelines for that one lol

                • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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                  44 days ago

                  So first it was you asserting that .world 196 doesn’t respect neopronouns, then it turned into .world has a tendency to have people who don’t respect neopronouns, and now it’s “I have a vibe that 196 doesn’t respect pronouns, but I don’t actually use 196”.

                  btw, are you still banned from the 196 on Blahaj? Of course, you don’t use it. :)

                  • Diva (she/her)
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                    I was banned from blahaj 196 for suggesting that they have a healthy relationship with other people IRL instead of behaving terminally online, yes

                    you should re-block me your posts are awful

                  • Diva (she/her)
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                    -14 days ago

                    “I have a vibe that 196 doesn’t respect pronouns, but I don’t actually use 196”.

                    I said that was the reason they left, because it was a huge debacle that nobody could miss when it happened.

                    I’m the esl person here, is reading what I’m saying instead of of making up shit really that difficult?

        • AlterEgoTest
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          4 days ago

          I include .world in the category “other”

          For the record i am also starting to feel like sopuli is getting a bit crowded. Don’t get me wrong everyone is welcome i just think we can benefit from more independent niches and corners.

        • AlterEgoTest
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          The main problem with centralisation

          If the majority of user and communities live on a the same instance, and that instance goes down or becomes to toxic to keep federated then fediverse loses a large chunk of its whole. While if it a tiny instances that dissapears only a few people and communities need to migrate.

          General i also think its beneficial if the owners of an instance are the same people from the communities its hosts. The role of general use instances should be more like a backup mirror

        • @cm0002@lemmy.world
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          One example is the lemmy.ml problem. You see the rest of the Tankie Triad is pretty widely defederated from, but lemmy.ml isn’t despite doing much of the same things, just a bit more subtlety.

          Because lemmy.ml is such a big instance and has a few of the biggest comms (By subscribers only, which means a bunch of dead accounts boosting the numbers, by MAUs a much different story unfolds) many instances admins are hesitant to defederate from them

          Big instances carry too much power and influence and if you’re a toxic instance like .ml, it can be used to basically bully other instances into remaining federated with you

    • @Nalivai@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      You can always move to another instance. The instance I joined first is very lovely but they’re a bit heavy on defederation, so half of the comments are unavailable. It’s actually very nice, but fomo is too strong with me. When I feel depressed by humanity, I switch back to that one again and feel better, not seeing all the bullshit.

    • @GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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      03 days ago

      you accidentally joined a gang of fascist supporting scum.

      the answer is simple, join a different instance and abandon the pieces of shit.

      of course you don’t have to, but when someone calls you a “scumbag fascist supporting simp”, don’t get mad.