• @megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    10 months ago

    The amount of area needed for solar does not even begin to approach the amount of farm land. People generally aren’t building solar panels on farmland anyways? The largest instillations in the US are in the middle of the fucking desert.

    Also get rid of as many parking lots as possible.

    There is just so many layers of false and absurd narrative in this.

    • @zazo@lemmy.world
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      010 months ago

      This post was maybe referring to agrovoltaics?

      The largest instillations in the US are in the middle of the fucking desert.

      Still this is obviously worse right? We’re taking untouched wilderness and turning it into a wasteland of blue silica. Deserts are pretty unique biomes with their own set of diverse animal and plant wildlife.

      Farm land is already void of most biodiversity and usually used to grow corn or some other form of unnecessary cattle feed - yeah ideally both get rewilded - but it feels better to reuse an already existing bio wasteland instead of creating new ones…

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        10 months ago

        It depends on how you see environment safety.

        Either you want to safe dieing species and biomes, or you want to safe somehow the global ecosystem that keeps us alive.

        First is illusionary, second is apparently too expensive according to the industrial nations.

        If you can place solar in the desert without killing food supply, then do it!

        The USA will have a big problem producing food once the Mediterranean climate zone wander north.

        Also a lot of USAs food production is supported by a big underwater reservoir that is very close to dry up…

        However I never see that they adress this issue…

    • @bluewing@lemm.ee
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      110 months ago

      You haven’t seen much of the US from ground level have you. There are more and more panel farms being built on good farm land. Sizes ranging from 10 to 40 acres at a time from all the ones I’ve seen.

      It might seem small to you, but it does add up.

    • @freebee@sh.itjust.works
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      110 months ago

      In Germany they sometimes put solar on the south side of historic trash hills. Seems like a good idea I can’t think of downsides.

    • @Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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      110 months ago

      Not much desert around me. Good farmland is getting leveled and solar put on top when there are parking lots already flat they could do it on. It’s just much, much easier to work with fresh ground. It’s why old warehouses are left to rot and farmland right next to them are razed for new warehouses.

      I put some solar on my farm, but made sure to use a plot that isn’t suitable for farming.

    • @anivia@lemmy.ml
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      110 months ago

      People generally aren’t building solar panels on farmland anyways?

      At least here in Germany they do