I just got my home server up and running and was wondering what you guys recommend for backups. I figure it will probably be worth having backups on cloud servers tjay are external, are there any good services yall use for that?
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Backblaze b2, borgbase.com. There are also programs like dejadup that will let you backup to popular cloud drives. The alternatives are limitless.
I use nightly borg backup to a separate box and then that box uses rclone to back up the borg repo offsite. Before running the borg backup I export all databases and docker volumes so they get picked up.
Backblaze B2 for automatic syncing of all the little files
Glacier for long term archiving of old big files that never change
I use wasabi s3, I back up to that using restic.
Backups and archived files go to my home server which then backups to backblaze b2.
My setup exactly, with the addition of using M-Discs to backup my core important stuff.
Regardless of service, if you don’t test your backups, you have none.
Ehhh I would say then you have probabilistic backups. There’s some percent chance they’re okay, and some percent chance they’re useless. (And maybe some percent chance they’re in between those extremes.) With the odds probably not in your favor. 😄
Schrodinger’s backups.
Exactly.
Not so much about testing, but one time I really needed to get to my backups I lost password to the repository (I’m using restic). Luckily a copy of it was stored in bitwarden, but until I remembered it, were perhaps one of the worst moments.
Needless to say, please test backups and store secrets in more then one place.
see also this previous discussion:
https://kbin.social/m/selfhosted@lemmy.world/t/182362/What-are-your-backup-solutionsI do once a day rsync my data to another drive. I can restore a file, if I accidentaly deleted it. Important stuff goes encrypted via rclone additionaly to a hetzner storagebox.
Duplicati, to a friend’s home server who lives in another town.
I hate to ask the scary question, but have you tried to restore your backups before? I used Duplicati and discovered that none of my backups were usable and ended up switching to Duplicacy.
+1 for Duplicacy. It just works, truly does. Duplicati on the other hand seems to work, but has a tendency to fail on restore, just as you described.
This is why I switched to restic.
How would one realistically go about testing their backup? Do you need a bunch of empty drives?
You don’t need to do full restores, spot check random files.
It works just fine for me, but I’ve heared scary storries so now Im using:
- Kopia to backblaze b2 (all data)
- Kopia to local disk (all data)
- Duplicati to google drive (only 1 folder)
An important question though.
I have, when I first set it up, and again once when I needed to.
I used to have everything backed up to a 2TB USB drive. Which I accidentally dropped down the stairs. I lost thousands of family photos and documents. That changed my backup perspective.
I now have a Synology NAS, with 12TB in a RAID5 array (for a bit of disk redundancy). All my home devices, Proxmox servers etc back up here. The NAS also holds a few TB of media. Attached to it I have a USB hard drive (also 12TB). The NAS gets fully backed up to the USB drive nightly.
I also have a remote Raspberry Pi with a smaller USB drive (4TB) attached to it at my brother’s house (in another country), where I backup most of the contents of my home NAS. I don’t back up the media, just the important stuff. I might have to upgrade to a larger drive…
I used to have everything backed up to a 2TB USB drive. Which I accidentally dropped down the stairs. I lost thousands of family photos and documents. That changed my backup perspective.
If it’s the only copy, it’s not a backup. It’s the master.
Yup :) Learned my lesson the hard (lol) way.
rsync.net is great if you need something simple and cheap. Backblaze B2 is also decent, but does have the typical download and API usage cost.
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How are you using rsync with B2? Are you mounting the bucket locally?
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I had never heard of rsync.net until now. I like the idea but it seems more expensive than B2. $15/TB vs $5/TB. Am I doing the math wrong or reading it wrong?
When I researched what to use for my backup I found rsync.net. They have some nice features nobody else seems to support, like they support ZFS send/receive https://www.rsync.net/products/zfsintro.html
But in the end the price made me go with borgbase.com
I don’t see it on their website right now, but they offer a discount if you’re using something like restic/borg and only need scp/sftp access. Their support is also super friendly. I’ve had an account forever and got moved to the 100+ TB pricing even though I have < 50TB stored. YMMV but it doesn’t hurt to ask if they have any additional discounts.
Also keep in mind that B2 charges for bandwidth too. It’s $5/TB for storage, but $10/TB to download that same data.
Sure but backup is mostly data in (free on B2). Data out is rare, if ever.
If i wasn’t backing up 12TB+ I would actually go with rsync for the features though.
Borgbase looks interesting, too.
I’ve never heard of it either, but I came to the same conclusion as you
Yeah rsync.net has always been pricey.
External HDD in my wifi network. It runs Samba. I can just drag and drop folders and it transfers over wifi.
Are you using a Synology NAS?
Veeam backup and replication at home and at work. At home a copy goes to a NAS, another copy goes to backblaze b2 currently.
I use OneDrive. Buy the Costco subscription and get like 15 months for around 110 CAD. GIVES 6 TB. I create some fake accountsink the sharing to my main account. I have an encrypted rxlone share for some things and others I GPG encryot the tar before sending it up. Been working fine for a couple years and I have multiple TB backed up.
Backblaze.
