Its time to switch to Linux!
Every OS has a limited life span of support. Linux is no different. Every distro I’m aware of does 5 years or less of support vs Microsoft’s 10 years.
I would disagree on the basis that Linux upgrades don’t require hardware upgrades (unless you have a very low end hardware that’s hanging by a thread already)
For example, I don’t remember seeing all this fuss about upgrading when people were moving from 8.1 to 10 (but it could just be me on my bubble)
The difference is you now need a TPM 2.0 chip. That’s pretty much it. Hardware requirements were the same as Win8.
If you are using a desktop computer, all you need to do is buy a $20-30 TPM 2.0 module and install it. It connects to a few pins and your done. It’s cheap, simple, and easy to do.
The issue is most people now have laptops and quite a few didn’t have that chip or that version (some have TPM 1.2, which isn’t as secure anymore.) and you can’t install it on a laptop motherboard. TPM 2.0 has been available since mid-2016, but some manufacturers might have cheapened out and not added it to save costs as it wasn’t a necessary part. So basically, any laptop that is 9 years or older (or the manufacturer cheapened out) won’t be able to upgrade to Win11.
Hmmm. I’ve never seen a board with a TPM header.
I don’t have any without. I do have ones where it’s not mentioned in the manual but clearly there though. Edit: double checked the 9 boards I have laying around. All of them going back to 4th gen intel have them. dont have any pre ryzen amd laying around to check though.
I’m likely going to have to upgrade to ryzen or similar if I wanted to dual boot 11. I’m on an FX-8350 so it might be time anyway.
You’ve gotten good time out of that system for sure. You can find good deals on ryzen 3000 and 5000 stuff right now.
Unless something has changed they took an axe to all 7th gen and older Intel CPUs and Ryzen 2000 and older AMD CPUs. This is the big challenge since this includes some very capable systems that are now just ewaste because Microsoft didn’t want to maintain compatibility all the way back to the Pentium 4 and Core 2 Duo and cut off platforms that still have life left in them
You are right, those are not compatible, didn’t realize that. The speed specs are the same, just a series block. With the worst part of this being that these are all going to be 10 years old when Win10 is completely unsupported, which is better then the non-Linix alternatives (MacOS, ChromeOS(?), Android, iPadOS).
Yeah the one saving grace is it’s a very long lifespan compared to all other computing platforms, plus one can actually install an alternative operating system or even hack Windows 11 to install in an unsupported manner, but it still means millions of computers going to the ewaste bin
unless you have a very low end hardware that’s hanging by a thread already
Even then, try AntiX.
were got
They were got hacked?! Where is has the media been has in all this??!1!
I mean, we have no laws about os support.
Imo a very common sense one is to make any software too old to maintain just open source.
Ownership in software should be based on who is willing and capable of maintaining it.
Bullshit!
I’ve been using Windows 7 for years well after end of support and my computer never got hacked!
Oh yes it did
They just fired two workers for organizing a protest against supporting Israel. You don’t have to make up conspiracy theories to convince people that Microsoft: Bad.
Step 1: damage your customers
Step 2: ?
Step 3: profit
Most big companies are bad, to be fair.
IIRC it wasn’t even a protest, it was a vigil for Gaza, so it was an act of remembrance for those who are suffering. Which makes it an even stranger thing to get fired for.
The article is light on details, but one of the fired individuals, Hossam Nasr, said the purpose of the vigil was both “to honor the victims of the Palestinian genocide in Gaza and to call attention to Microsoft’s complicity in the genocide” because of the use of its technology by the Israeli military.
Not that I think they shouldn’t have the right to protest, but it was clearly more than “just” a vigil.
I’m absolutely certain the grammatical clusterfuck in so many memes and posts is done fully consciously. Like, someone sat there and actually thought about how to make it grammatically fucked yet get the point across, just to get those extra comments pointing it out. And it’s fucking horrifying that this is where we are, deliberately making things dumb to get more “clicks”.
Its all about teh enjagement.
Jao kan hay poot tis mwhore cleerly?
how does i made meam
Them: I make typos for engagement.
Me: I make typos because I don’t spellcheck/grammar check and I’m stupid.
We are not the same.
Tale as old as Jeff K
Linux can also be susceptible to attacks and breaches too.
“no, wait, not like that!”
Bold of you to oppose the oppressive Linux lobby here on Lemmy. They are worse than the most militant vegans…
I really don’t understand people’s issue with vegans, even the really vocal ones. I’m not vegan, cheese is life, but I get that they are well meaning and ultimately are wanting to change the world for the better.
I said militant vegans. The key word here is militant.
My problem is things like “you’re a rapist because you eat cheese.” Fuck those people tbh.
I use it too. I have it dual-booted alongside windows .
Rarely happens though because who the fuck uses Linux?
I have yet to read news of it actually happening though
I would argue it’s even easier, I don’t even have to bypass defender and AMSI in Linux, not that it’s hard but I don’t even have to.
Do you think the os used by most of the servers isn’t good enough just because it didn’t got “the defender”?
Who’s talking about being good enough? The fact is that if a USER fucks up it’s easier to compromise a Linux machine than a Microsoft one.
Yeah. Gotta find a distro soonish. My 3-4 year old laptop tried to update to W11 and has failed twice. Guess it doesn’t meet the hardware reqs. (Thank you RNGesus)
Another recommendation for Linux Mint here. Just live boot off a USB drive and try it out. Maybe dual boot for a while if you’re unsure about just getting rid of windows cold turkey.
I use it daily on my work machine (2 year old Dell laptop) and it feels pretty flawless and polished. Even for basic desktop stuff I like it better than windows, but then all the techy Linux shit it’s still there if you care to use it. I use this “user friendly” distro to stare at plain text in monospaced fonts all day, usually between source code files and command-line stuff.
Any distro will do. I suggest using one that has a complete installer like Mint or OpenSuse and then use KDE Plasma as desktop, which closely resembles Windows.
Ignore everything else, go linux mint.
I can vouch for mint, I picked it up recently after not touching Linux for almost 20 years and it was very intuitive and Windows-like. Haven’t dug very deep into it yet but it was at least easy to setup and get the necessities working
Dude. I have a 2002 Dell laptop with Mint 16 on it.
It’s completely unusable. Takes like 10 mins to open a browser. But it fuckin’ works. Its incredible.
For something that old, you should try Q4OS. It’s a Debian-based distro like Mint, but it’s designed for stability while using the absolute minimum resources.
I recently installed it on a gateway laptop that’s at least 20 years old. I didn’t try streaming video or anything, but just opening the browser and looking at wikis was a perfectly normal experience. I dare say that laptop is working better now than when it had Windows XP.
Currently writing from a Mint laptop, works perfectly with minimal setup and no command line whatsoever, the only annoying thing is that the caps lock key behaves differently. Though Linux’s reputation is that it can probably be modded out.
I also installed Diodon to recover the cool clipboard function that Windows has.
I could probably get the customizeable start menu, but i actually don’t miss it that much
Can I “emulate” like Windows98 UI while keeping all the new functions?
A default install of Linux Mint Cinnamon has a classic windows layout of a taskbar and start button.
But things like searching and updates actually work smoothly and quickly.
I don’t know, but Linux’s reputation is that it can probably be modded out.
absolutly, for win 95 there is a xfce (like xubuntu or mint xfce) Theme called “chicago 95”, not sure about 98 tho
95 is just as good. I just really like that old ass UI. Nostalgia ya know?
Pretty sure w10 still receives updates
It’s scheduled to stop receiving them October 14, 2025.
1 year until my distro search is forced to come to an end and I must choose one.
I guess the Manjaro partition on my dual-boot laptop will finally be woken up for the first time in months
Side note: Anyone got advice on how to make my Synaptics touchpad work the same as it does on windows? That’s like my number 1 pet peve whenever I try Linux on my laptop
If it’s weird and or has latency, then make sure you have manually installed the synaptics drivers. That was at least the fix for my ThinkPad.
Yeah, it’s the floaty feeling, I think that I had installed them, but IIRC you had to configure them by editing a config file and I couldn’t get it to work just right
I have no clue, but it may help someone that does know if you specify what your expected behavior is. “The same as it does on windows” isn’t very descriptive to anyone without the same hardware to find out how they differ.
If it’s just inverted scrolling, for instance, there’s a setting for that in the mouse/touchpad settings of most DEs
PopOS for not tech savvy, Arch for tech savvy. Can’t go wrong.
Currently rocking Kubuntu, it’s okay with my Nvidia GPU, mint was good but hated my GPU. I’ll try popOS next.
Kubuntu has gotten me further in my quest to leave windows so far, I need to use the official Nvidia drivers for my Vive to work on my 4070ti super. Now waiting on proton to make another huge leap and give me access to the 70ish VR titles that are not showing up on Linux. Fingers crossed. So many suggest bazzite but… no Nvidia support
The shit thing about having built this pc for windows originally is that I wouldn’t have bought Nvidia. They really suck to use on Linux.
They often extend these, FYI. But it’s not a big deal, windows 11 is the same as 10, although they removed a lot of features like the metro tiles. It’s like 10, but noticeably worse… Free, though (if you have 10).
I assume lots of people have PCs that aren’t supported by windows 11 though
were got hacked
Windows 10 is coming up on 10 years old. Things can’t live forever.
MS learned that from XP.
I recall them saying Windows 10 would be a rolling release and it would be the last one you ever had to buy. Could be wrong though. I don’t pay much attention because I haven’t used it since Windows 7. I don’t have a link to back this up, just my hazy memory.
Well, the update from 10 to 11 is free
If you have compatible hardware, that is.
Are you also angry at Microsoft because Windows 10 doesn’t work on a Pentium 150 with 32mb of RAM?
They are still conceptually different operating systems. There are users who are unable to upgrade because their hardware is deemed incompatible, and when Windows 10 support ends they will be left without updates. Microsoft no doubt have reasons for this, probably some good and some bad, but ultimately this is not the same as the “Windows as a service” that was sold to customers when they paid for the licence.
About the hardware compatibility, it’s the same as any other software as a service, at some point you might need to upgrade your hardware in order to continue being able to use the software.
You are wrong. Some random guy said that on Twitter and people ran with it. It was never officially stated by Microsoft.
Here are three sources reporting that Microsoft employee Jerry Nixon announced it at Microsoft’s Ignite conference in 2015. They announced the transition to “Windows as a service” model, and it is also reported that Satya Nadella described this as a “new era” for computing.
https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57443598
I don’t have a link to a Microsoft source, or the original video/audio, but the sources are reputable enough that I’m sticking with my original statement.
were got hacked
no longer receive security update
your base are belong to us
Lol, seriously, are you a bot or a propagandist? How do you not see why they posted this?
The fuck you on about? We’re mocking the lack of basic language skills.
Imagine a virus that installs linux on that date.
Sounds more like a cure to me
Is this post from the future? Windows 10 still has support for another year.
Thats why its dated 2025
In the title, not the image. So confusing
The title is the day the world will end
