• OhStopYellingAtMe
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    224 months ago

    One of the reasons I avoid the gaming communities. So much complaining / whining / negativity / cynicism.

    • @HowManyNimons@lemmy.world
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      64 months ago

      Misogyny, racism, transphobia, toxicity, unfunniness, bullying. Fuck gaming communities. I’ll play my single player games and seldom post anywhere about them.

  • @BearGun@ttrpg.network
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    I’m more worried about her having mutation potions (and them working instantly, but that’s more expected), they better have a damn good reason for her body not melting

    • @itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      They pretty explicitly make it sound like she underwent Witcher mutations in the meantime. How that happens, I have no idea, maybe it’ll be a plot point in the game? If they hand-wave it away I’ll be disappointed

      • @skoell13@feddit.org
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        164 months ago

        Yeah I was also wondering as soon as I saw her cat-like eyes… Thought it’s not possible anymore but let’s see. Hopefully they’ll explain it

        • WastedJobe
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          114 months ago

          Wasn’t one of the endings of Witcher 3 that Ciri goes through the trial of the grasses and becomes a witcher? Seems pretty damn possible to me.

          • @skoell13@feddit.org
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            I can’t remember but I thought that for the Witcher ending I had she didnt go through the trials. I mean one reason is iirc that there is noone knowing how to do it.

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              What’s a couple decades with a dying witcher school, the world’s most powerful sorceresses and the ability to teleport to the dimension where magic was birthed?

              I’m pretty sure Yenn or Triss mention how trivial it would be for them to figure out the potions and transmutations required to make the trials happen but the Witchers are very, very against an outsider touching it all. The original plans were made by a sorceress in any case.

              I’m sure they’ll have a perfectly reasonable way of explaining how she went through the trials.

              • @Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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                I’m not very deep into the lore but aren’t there other Witcher schools that might not necessarily see the transformation the same way the wolf school came to see it?

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                  Yeah, totally. As far as game lore goes I don’t see why they can’t change that. As far as we can see all of the schools had widely varied ideologies. What is good, what is evil, contract killing and more. I see no reason in established lore that another school couldn’t have had female witchers or why the Lodge wouldn’t want to get their hands on the recipes to revive the witcher schools.

        • @Anivia@feddit.org
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          And even if it was possible, why would it be done to her given the high mortality rate of that ritual?

      • JackbyDev
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        I think this is from the movie Thank You For Smoking. I think about it all the time. They were discussing having a paid advertisement of an astronaut smoking in a space station. One character points out it wouldn’t work because of the pure oxygen environment being explosive. The other character responds “We’ll just say ‘oh thank God we invented the whatever device!’” It’s sort of become an in joke with my wife about rough edges of plots in sequels.

        I haven’t played any of the games, so I don’t really know why they couldn’t.

  • @Fades@lemmy.world
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    Yeah it’s sad. I’ve also seen a lot of people crying because Ciri is just sooo boring. I’m guessing those either didn’t play or like W3.

    I will say I’m disappointed in the voice actor change as I liked the original VA, but any fan will get over that pretty quickly.

    Her facial shape or whatever does look slightly different from W3 Ciri in ways that don’t happen just with age but given the new engine and whatnot, who cares :) (also a Witcher goes through many physical changes so it fits lore-wise also)

    • @Croquette@sh.itjust.works
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      My only gripes with that choice is that Ciri is a leap more powerful than Geralt, and has the training of a Witcher, so it feels a bit DBZ-esque of the ever more powerful enemy/hero. But, otherwise, Ciri is the natural continuation of the game series.

      • @GoodEye8@lemm.ee
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        24 months ago

        My biggest gripe is also the power level. Witcher 3 already sets her potential way above Geralt which means for Witcher 4 they most likely will nerf her powers to not make her a, living god. Personally I would’ve preferred if they hadn’t used Ciri in the first place because it’s bound to create retcons.

        Or if they wanted to make a story about Ciri they should’ve focused on who she is (someone with elder blood) not on who she isn’t (an actual Witcher). She doesn’t need Witcher powers, her innate powers are already way stronger than what a Witcher gets.

  • @SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip
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    124 months ago

    Witcher 4 comments are bad, but Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet is getting a lot worse heat. You would think that a new IP by renowned devs who have not made a single bad game would be hype.

    • Dogiedog64
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      They’re exceptionally upset that the rough-and-tumble female bounty hunter lead character of the 80’s cassette-retro-futurism sci-fi action game isn’t some generic-looking 80’s supermodel type, instead of someone who you’d actually expect to be a space-bounty hunter. I have no doubt Naughty Dog has made another banger game, but sexist coomers are gonna be sexist coomers, and there’s not a whole lot you can do for them.

      • @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net
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        84 months ago

        Yeah, like when was there ever a heroine in 80s action sci fi that was a no-nonsense rough & tumble ass-kicking type? I can’t think of a single one, let alone multiple iconic characters that headlined my favourite movies from the era.

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          First I can think of is Ellen Ripley from Alien and Aliens. Didn’t start out badass or ass-kicking, but sure as shit ended up doing so.

          • @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net
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            74 months ago

            Her and Sarah Connor were the main ones. T2 wasn’t technically 80s but it’s close, and the character started in the 80s.

        • Captain Aggravated
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          24 months ago

          Battletech does indeed have its long list of badass action babes, the top eight entries of which are Natasha Kerensky, but you’ve also got the likes of Melissa Steiner, her daughter Catherine “Katrina” Steiner-Davion, Dierdre Lear, and to a degree Isis Marik. A lot can be said for the women of the Draconis Combine as well who aren’t permitted to be warriors but tend to politick and intrigue a lot, such as Omi and Constance Kurita.

          Pulling just two examples out of that list, Dierdre Lear is a pacificst who became a doctor and jointed the military as a MASH trauma surgeon. Her father died in a 'mech duel when she was a little girl, and so she decided she was gonna fix war one bandaged gunshot wound at a time. She serves during the Clan invasion, being swept along with Kai Allard-Liao in his adventures, first kind of inadvertently causing and playing a significant role in the Twycross Great Gash incident by objecting to moving her MASH unit, and then on Alyena becoming trapped behind enemy lines and forming a one man one woman insurgency with Kai. She shoots one man in the back to save Kai’s life and is deeply conflicted by this action.

          Constance Kurita is a cousin to the Coordinator (dictator) of the Draconis Combine (space feudal Japan), In an oppressive society that doesn’t like sending women to school, she joins the Order of the Five Pillars which is kind of what this society has instead of scholar monks, eventually becoming the Keeper of the House Honor. As such she has an intelligence network that rivals that of the military’s intelligence service and often shares moments of “I can’t tell you how I know this but here’s something you should know and what you should do about it” with her cousin Theodore, heir to the throne and often in positions of power; as Theodore rises through the ranks, so does Constance and her influence and reach often matches his. She’s not the captain of the ship of state but she’s definitely got a hand on the tiller and a better idea of what’s going on in the engine room than the bridge crew does.

          Battletech actually did that kind of thing well, sure there’s plenty of Rambo action schlock, it is a series of novels designed to market a tabletop game after all, but they put some craftsmanship into it.

    • @Landsharkgun@midwest.social
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      14 months ago

      Man, I just watched the trailer and that was a trip. I think they nailed the character: just the right amount of cynicism and hard edges without dipping too far into quippy one-liners.

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    I wish she had sharper rather than rounder features to resemble her model in W3 closer, but I don’t see anything wrong with her new look, and anyone who does should probably touch grass.

    Also, I’m an inveterate enemy of the braid

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      I agree with everything you’ve said, but with the comment that the trailer as a whole had uncanny valley vibes to me. I think that the red pill crowd don’t know how to properly voice their complaints. They see the model look different like you said and they like it less. Maybe they see the same sort of general weirdness in the characters like I do. Then they chalk it up to making characters less perfectly beautiful because they’re going woke lol.

  • @ChillPenguin@lemmy.world
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    I’m soooo excited. Ciris whole story arc in the prior games. Now seeing her as an older adult.

    I know this post is about the toxicity of people. But I’m excited, that’s all.

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    I find her extremely well made, kinda like I imagined when reading the book: full of scars, beefy, and angry at the stupidity of tradition (recurring theme in the books)

  • @Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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    124 months ago

    So what is the point they are trying to make in that video?

    Is it just listing facial changes since Witcher 3? Or is it whining because the girl became less fappable in their opinion and claim it is woke?

    • @blarth@thelemmy.club
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      Well you see, she isn’t wearing bikini armor and flirtatiously interacting with everyone in the trailer, so it is woke. Wokedy woke woke.

    • @Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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      the trailer did feel a bit off in general, what really gets to me is how… badly? ciri fights, she just throws up her sword over and over again which makes her look like a panicked amateur, when she’s supposed to have trained with a sword since childhood!

    • @ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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      You can learn it practically if you take a couple of anatomy classes oriented towards a medical career. A good chunk never really get used outside of precision in documentation, if it’s a specialty (everyone says “cheek”, but the dentist says “buccal”), or if the common term is actually too vague to work with (broken arm -> greenstick fracture of the left radius)

      Taking an anatomy class to talk like a plastic surgeons billing notes is just weird.

    • @ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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      You can learn it practically if you take a couple of anatomy classes oriented towards a medical career. A good chunk never really get used outside of precision in documentation, if it’s a specialty (everyone says “cheek”, but the dentist says “buccal”), or if the common term is actually too vague to work with (broken arm -> greenstick fracture of the left radius)

      Taking an anatomy class to talk like a plastic surgeons billing notes is just weird.

  • @latenightnoir@lemmy.world
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    This is like the lame version of those people who can locate your position on the globe by analysing the only visible cloud in one of your photos.

    • andrew_bidlaw
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      304 months ago

      more like mentally unwell people who get that invested in the media they come to analyze the bone structure of a character and link it as a reason to some imaginary wokeness

  • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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    She looks 40, now as a 30 year old I couldn’t have less of a problem. At this stage of my life I prefer my women to look like they’ve been an adult for a while.

  • Storm
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    224 months ago

    When you get so into looksmaxxing that you start sounding like you’re going through psychosis