Tap the account switcher in the top left corner and you should see the option.
See my comment for a screenshot. I don’t know why I can’t seem to post a screenshot in the body of post. Every time I try it gets removed.
Yeah, nah. That’s too pricey to remove ads for a single app.
God forbid you pay $20 once to support the dev and for an app you’ll use 1-2 hours a day for potentially the rest of your life…yet you’ll pay $10 for a streaming service you’ll never touch for months on end…
My man, I’m not using lemmy 2 hours a day every day for 60 something years
Everyone’s usage is different…but I’m sure many people used Sync for Reddit as much since it was out.
How is the amount of time you spend on a app a consideration for the price? Using Sync more doesn’t cost the dev any more so not sure why they would be factored into it. It feels like you’re conflating personal value with cost.
This is why subscriptions are becoming the norm
Jesus, dude! It’s a one-time payment for lifetime of no adds! Plus you support the developer.
People are spoiled.
Quite the opposite. I already block ads, I want to support the developer. But I don’t want a subscription nor do I want to pay a huge fee for one app. I use a lot of apps and it’s not feasible to pay that much for each one.
You’re not paying to remove ads. You’re supporting the development and making it worthwhile for the developer to continue to create the app.
That it happens to remove ads is just a side benefit. You can remove ads from all apps using a VPN based ad blocker anyway (on android).
Why not support a FOSS, then?
Sure, but if you’re someone who wants sync specifically (say, if you used it for reddit), then you need to support it if you want it to stay in development.
It’s just really weird to pay twenty dollars to not have ads on a platform that doesn’t inherently have ads - a platform that has been purposefully designed to avoid the needs for ads or the trappings of capitalism. To voluntarily reinfect yourself into that ecosystem seems at best weird, and at worst sort of a violation of what the fediverse is about.
I understand the sentiment. Most devs that release Lemmy apps do so as a side projects. They don’t make money doing it. In fact, they actually losing money and time to work on their side projects. It’s actually amazing how many apps we now have in just a short time.
That being said, Sync developer is one of a few dev who work on a lemmy app full time. This results in higher quality app, even though it’s still in beta right now. But since he’s literally doing this for a living, he’ll need to make some money to continue his work. People was begging for him to make an app for Lemmy, and he actually does it. Whether he’ll continue doing this or not will depends on whether he can make a living or not. And since the market for Lemmy apps is so small, there is no other choice but to charge a higher price to make the calculus works. For a lot of people that rooting for him, paying $20 or $17/year is no brainer if it means they get to have their favorite app working on Lemmy.
If there’s no other choice why is it the only app making that choice? I also don’t think that proprietary closed, profit incentivized systems are inherently better. The kbin PWA app is beyond sufficient.
I’m not saying there is no other choice. Lemmy core devs are paid by a grant to work on Lemmy full time for example. Other apps developers may have a different funding model (donation, or even out of their own pocket), but for Sync, the dev is a commercial app developer so he does what he do best: making a paid app.
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Sync isn’t the type of app that needs to be worked on full time. It’s an alternate interface of an existing website.
This price is too steep and I will either wait for it to go down or switch to another app when they become more full featured.
The thing that set Sync and Apollo apart from a horde of other 3rd party reddit client apps was due to both dev was working full time on their app, and the quality of those apps prove it. The sync dev has been working full time on lemmy app in the past few weeks, and we can already see how good the app is compared o other lemmy apps.
If Apollo dev were also making a lemmy app, the price would be more or less the same simply due to small lemmy user base. The economy of scale simply is not there yet. The only way those devs can lower the price and still be able to sustain themselves is if lemmy gain a whole lot more total active users.
So I guess any new updates and features will just release on their own, huh?
This platform needs money to keep going. If donations do not cover expenses, it will either find funding or just close. So, it may end up using “trappings of capitalism”.
If it’s too expensive (and $20 is too expensive), not enough people will pay and it will close.
At the moment, I have access to half a dozen apps to access the fediverse which are all free as in beer, free as in freedom, free as in ad-free, and perfectly fine quality-wise.So maybe, making this your full time job just isn’t viable at the moment.
The market will definitely speak on this one since the platform itself isn’t monetized and there are tons of other options for those who don’t want to pay that much. If it ends up not being workable, it won’t be workable, and the model will need to adapt or fold.
I’d never pay that much for a phone app, personally, especially on android, because I’ve had apps that change dramatically to the point I no longer like/can use them. It’s a bit better on iOS because the devices are supported a lot longer with OS updates (literally the reason I switched after a lifetime with android flexibility - sick of apps not working and my phones not being supported officially for more than 2 years).
This isn’t to say I won’t pay for things I want and support - I did pay for a Plex lifetime subscription like 9 years ago ($100, it’s 120 now, and a large amount of paying for it is app access, but also managed home users so my close friends/family can be logged in to my account directly without impacting me in any way) because the value was well worth it after subscribing month to month to test it and using the free version for several years prior. The value for what I paid has increased substantially with new features and just simple longevity. The model seems to work well enough for what they provide, both to them and to their users. I can swap to another self-host if it falls apart, but in the 12 or so years I’ve been using it, only a small number of changes have negatively impacted me, and only slightly (tho I paid early, so if features were paywalled after being free, I’m not aware of it, tho they have made some previously paid things free, like plexamp). I can skip server updates and roll them back easily if it stops working with my OS, and my users wouldn’t know the difference for a long time.
This tends not to be the case with mobile apps because devices are constantly changing, and side-loading apks can be a challenge for your average person. It’s a lot less static overall than pc hardware, so app-breaking updates on older mobile hardware are way way more likely. I can’t afford new phones all the time, so that’s a problem to me.
I’m looking at the relative useful lifecycle of the software. If I can get maybe a couple years before my OS version isn’t properly supported to run the app anymore, and it’s difficult to fix without upgrading hardware or rooting and flashing (not something everyone can or wants to do), I probably don’t want it. I turned off automatic app updates for years because of this issue, but they stop working after a while anyway.
I was talking about servers, not client apps.
Regarding the app, yes, $20 is too expensive for just turning off ads. Moon Reader Pro asks $8 for an ad-free experience, and yet I think it’s a bit too much for me. But it’s a market, and demand will correct the price. If nobody pays $20 to disable ads, the devs can consider reducing the price, at least temporarily. So I don’t see any problems here.
As for totally free apps, I consider them as a sort of gift. Some people are giving away the results of their labor for free, maybe because it’s their hobby, or because of ideology, but definitely because they have spare time to work on their apps. But it can change, and active development can stop. The only thing able to motivate them to continue the work is a profit, allowing them to spend some time without sacrificing anything else. We can end up with ads, subscriptions, single-time payments, or maybe just donations. I think it’s inevitable for active projects.
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Yes we are paying to remove ads.
If people want to keep supporting the dev, just buy the subscription or check if he has a donations link. But this purchase is just what it says: Remove Ads.
You’re like, really smart… Nothing gets past you!
I paid €2.51 to remove ads on Sync for Reddit. I would have spent maybe a tenner but it’s over €20 for the Lemmy app. As much as I love Sync, that’s a big nope from me.
Remember, Lemmy has a lot less active users than Reddit. Even if ALL active Lemmy users on Lemmy.world buy the app at its original $2 price, it’s still not enough to sustain full time development. Both higher one time purchase price and subscription is needed for the app’s survival, even then I’m still not sure if it’s enough for the dev to sustain themselves. I’m getting the ultra subscription for this reason because I don’t want the app to go away, and I encourage people that really like the app to do so as well.
The userbase of Reddit is over 10x higher.
That’s quite the understatement. 400 million vs 60,000 monthly active users.
But why male models?
Monthly active users aren’t counted the same. Lemmy only counts people who post or comment. Still a big difference, but 60,000 is not the entire userbase of Lemmy.
I picked 10 cause the price was about 10x higher.
No, we’re paying to remove ads. And $26 CDN to remove ads feels really high when I paid $3.69 to remove ads in Boost and $4.49 to remove ads in Relay in 2019.
I like how you bothered to speak of supporting the dev yet mentioned how to stop ads with a VPN based blocker.
Paying to remove ads is supporting the dev. This is doubly true when you can get no ads without paying (though sync will still have blank spots where the ads were supposed to go).
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It’s a lifetime option. They may well make $20 over the next 10 years.
In 10 years I will have replaced my phone 5 times, so make it $4 for the time I actually use it.
Why does that matter? I’ve replaced my phone 4 times so since I bought sync for reddit, still used the same 7 dollar purchase to the end.
It’s tied to your Google account, not the phone.
You can keep sync when you get a new phone. It goes with your google account, it’s what the “restore purchases” option is for during the setup.
Yes it is steep for me in Quebec with taxes it is 31 $ . But I had the option to use 20$ in google play credits from Google rewards. 11$ is an ok deal. Remember that sync is the first Lemmy app from former Reddit devs and that the developer worked really hard to release it.
I am aware of the scenario. Sync for Lemmy is not just relaunching into a fresh world here. The dev shouldn’t come in with unreasonable pricing. Not when we can use very nice apps such as Connect instead for free, and ad free.
Last thread was complaints of not wanting subscriptions this thread is complaints of too expensive 🤷. By all means keep the ads or use another app. Imo it’s not super surprising to be pricey when it’s a one time purchase instead of the subscription.
Welcome to the internet
“We want this”
“No not like that”
Sync is good enough to get 20 bucks easily. If I wasn’t on iPhone, I would immediately.
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The sub includes more feature unlocks than just ad removal. The pro unlock doesn’t include user tagging anymore like it did for reddit for example.
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If the subscription was $200/year, would you consider $250 for lifetime to be a deal?
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But it wasn’t before. You can’t expect to turn around and say “the thing that cost you 30$ a month ago is now 100$” and not expect to piss off a lot of people. I bought that reddit lifetime at that price, I have zero intentions of spending 100$ for a site that is still in it’s infancy
Having paid $6 for reddit sync probably over a decade ago while the dev has maintained and improved the app over those years with no additional money from me, I think I got a pretty good deal. It’s definitely a calculation to make but I don’t think $20 would have been unreasonable a decade ago and I don’t really think it is now. Maybe also dont forget to put some blame on reddit, the dev got fucked there and has to rebuild the customer base that would have included recurring payment customers (unlike me).
$25 / €23 in Norway. That’s pretty pretty steep (งツ)ว
Just got the update and… Yeah, it’s almost $100 on my currency. I’m not sure if I ever saw an app this expensive before, not that I buy a lot of apps, but still. Love the app and lj has always been awesome, but will have to pass :(
Well, this is how it’s for my currency.
$100 is a lifetime purchase of all the fancy features or whatever, 20 is just the one time purchase to remove ads
Sync isn’t really the right fit for my needs/preferences, but I thought it’d be worthwhile to clarify
That one is $500, $100 is just to remove ads. It’s not in dollars for me.
Good lord, what? Can you post a screenshot?
Sure
It looks like that 97.99 is 20 US dollars so that seems right.
Yep, but even then it’s still kinda out of our reality here.
Triste ser brasileiro
Né? Kkkkk
Eu ia pagar pq usei muito no reddit e o dev é gente boa, mas pesado demais 100zão
Sim mano, lembro que paguei menos de 30 reais na versão dev do sync for reddit 😢
I’m seeing it as $100 as well.
$100 is a lifetime purchase of all the fancy features or whatever, 20 is just the one time purchase to remove ads
Sync isn’t really the right fit for my needs/preferences, but I thought it’d be worthwhile to clarify
Ah, thank you for clearing that up for me. Makes sense now.
Yup, same here. I was ready to pay something around 10 to 20USD, but in no way am I ever paying close to 100USD in a mobile app like Sync.
Completely bonkers!
I do agree with the sentiment that the price is a tad steep. I think $10 is a more agreeable price imo.
Personally I still prefer the $17 a month considering that backing up my settings through the cloud is an important and convenient feature since I own multiple devices and 8 lemmy profiles (don’t ask why lol). Hopefully LDJ has a desktop version.
Will there be a premium app in the store? I recall the reddit version with IAP periodically having issues with purchases not being recognized. I’d rather spend my money on that then.
Google doesn’t permit multiple versions of the same app anymore plus the dev already fixed that issue 1 year ago
This caused major issues with Google before, so I don’t think so.
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Thank you! This is what I wanted. Paid as soon as it appeared. Worked out to be about $30 cad, worth it to me.
I don’t exactly understand why the 20$ translate to 22€, when the euro is stronger than the dollar 🤔
Taxes. US prices are always net prices, as taxes are depending on which state you live in. 20 USD = 18.28 € + 19 % taxes (let’s take the German one) = 21.75 €. If you are from Italy you are even better off, as with your VAT it would be 22 % = 22.3 €.
€21.99 in Belgium.
Same in France
15 euros in eastern Europe
€23 in Poland 😬
Yesterday it was 69,99 PLN which was rather high but not that bad, but today I saw the price went up to 99,99 PLN. As much as I like Sync I’m not going to pay this much to remove ads.
I see PLN 99.99.
I guess you’re Western Europe now. Welcome aboard.
Aaannd… Done.
Amazing work @ljdawson@lemmy.world!
100% Done
₹9900 for lifetime ultra, this is expensive. Entry level smartphones that the majority of Indians use costs much less than that.
It is not friendly to regional pricing. Can’t really blame the dev since their own bill are probably in dollars, but I think I’ll pass myself as it is fairly expensive for an app here. I could buy like 3 or 4 full video games for the price.
I will stick to connect and keep buying kuro some coffee every 2 3 months
I paid less for my Plex lifetime subscription.
It’s like 1/2 of the monthly entry level income in my 3rd world country.
Well, the author lives in London and £19 he asks for is like one meal in London.
i can feed myself for way less then that in the US. is there THAT big of a discrepancy, or do you mean eating out?
After a trip to the UK last month, grocery stores are VERY cheap compared to what the US pays. Eating out is crazy expensive though.
I mean eating out and not in McD. Of course you can cook at home and save a lot of money.
There was some talk on Discord about making the pricing regional, no idea on timeline though. But it does not sound reasonable if that’s half a monthly entry salary for you!