• @Lysergid@lemmy.ml
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    Nope, JS is “You think you are nerd”.

    Also, why React is there? It’s a lib not a language

    • @vala@lemmy.world
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      HTML 5 is also not a programming language.

      That being said. The JS hate is kinda cringe at this point. It’s a perfectly fine language all things considered.

      • Neshura
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        22 days ago

        I wouldn’t say it’s a perfectly fine language but I also don’t understand the people hating on JS developers. If anything kudos to them for suffering through a language filled with such BS as “==” not actually doing what you think it should do (when coming from other languages).

        • @vala@lemmy.world
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          I’m yet to find a non-LISP that doesn’t have at least one or two rough edges like that.

    • luciole (he/him)
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      Come on y’all, would you lay off the gatekeeping. Some of us still think the free web’s a good thing, lest we all end up in a walled garden hellscape. JavaScript is therefore needed if we’re being pragmatic. Just transpile it from TypeScript if you’re too stuck up for dynamic languages building something big.

  • katy ✨
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    rust: you’re about to get a blahaj and a tiny blue pill.

  • @expr@programming.dev
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    A real nerd would know that React is a library and HTML is a markup language, and neither are programming languages.

  • @axh@lemmy.world
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    Ah, yes. My favourite programming language (checks notes) HTML…

    If your favourite programming language is HTML, we do not grant you the title of Nerd.

  • lime!
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    124 days ago

    matlab is nobody’s favourite language. although using it does require an engineering degree, which makes you a nerd.

    • @SyntaxError@lemmy.world
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      We nagged our highschool around 97-98 until we got a programming course, we wanted c++ but the IT guy thought c++ would just be a fad, so we learned turbopascal.

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      33 days ago

      I still do.

      I wish they’d open source Delphi (and most of the libraries). Might actually breathe some life back into it.

  • kn0wmad1c
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    104 days ago

    Most of these are scripting languages. Some are even markup languages. It’s like the meme creator didn’t even know what a programming language was.
    I hope someone got fired for that blunder

      • @nyan@lemmy.cafe
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        114 days ago

        Some people think that only compiled languages are true programming languages. (Needless to say, they’re wrong.)

        • @frezik@midwest.social
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          Yeah, once you know all the details, the distinction disappears. The term doesn’t clarify understanding.

          If I had to make a distinction, it’d be that scripting languages are meant to be a simple way to serve a specific niche. Things like SQL or Excel formulas. It doesn’t apply to Python.

        • Malgas
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          54 days ago

          Needless to say, they’re wrong.

          Not least because there’s no such thing as a “compiled” or “interpreted” language.

          Which is to say that it’s a property of the tooling rather than the language itself. There’s nothing stopping anyone from writing a C interpreter or a Python compiler.

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            Not least because there’s no such thing as a “compiled” or “interpreted” language.

            I’d say there is (but the line is a bit blurry). IMHO the main distinction is the presence (and prevalence) of eval semantics in the language; if it is present, then any “compiler” would have to embed itself into the generated code, thus de-facto turning it into a bundled interpreter.

            That said, the argument that interpreted languages are somehow not programming languages is stupid.

      • @mriswith@lemmy.world
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        Do you know what community you’re in? Do you want to start a war?


        There is no clear definition because there is a lot of overlap, especially when you get into the details, but:

        • Scripting languages are often considered to be very high level and can commonly run without compilation. Making them great to automate tasks or create a simplified interaction/abstraction layer to a more complex program.

        • Programming languages usually have much lower level access, and by extension they tend to be more complicated. In exchange for that, you get much more control.

        Although for every example, there is basically a counter example. Because programmers being who they are, basically see it as a challenge to do something with a language that others consider impossible or wrong.

        For example, there are things like NodeOS, a “Lightweight operating system using Node.js as userspace.”

        • @Pardal@lemmy.world
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          For example, there are things like NodeOS, a “Lightweight operating system using Node.js as userspace.”

          No way this exists.

          Wtf, it exists. Why would anyone do that to the world?

        • @frezik@midwest.social
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          Scripting languages are often considered to be very high level and can commonly run without compilation. Making them great to automate tasks or create a simplified interaction/abstraction layer to a more complex program.

          Then Python is not a scripting language.

          Programming languages usually have much lower level access, and by extension they tend to be more complicated. In exchange for that, you get much more control.

          Would you consider C to be more or less complicated than Perl?

          • @mriswith@lemmy.world
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            The first comment worked as bait, but that last question is way too obvious.


            Although just for fun:

            Then Python is not a scripting language.

            That is true. It is often used as one, but it was developed from the start as a general-purpose language.

            Would you consider C to be more or less complicated than Perl?

            Come on, you know about Python, Perl and C. You know the answer and you’re just trying to incense people.

            • @frezik@midwest.social
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              No, I’m trying to get people to think. If I laid out my full opinions on this subject (compilers and interpreters aren’t that different anymore, even machine code often runs more like bytecode in many ways, “scripting” is a term that hides what’s actually going on, etc.), then people get into endless debates. My questions are designed to pick apart assumptions.

              Admittedly, people didn’t appreciate when Socrates did this shit, either.

      • @0x0@lemmy.zip
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        One is:

        • a scripting/interpreted language needs an interpreter to be installed on the target system in order to run
        • a programming/compiled language needs a compiler on the host machine and will run as-is standalone in the target machine

        /me ducks for cover

        • Valen
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          23 days ago

          Still a language to make the computer do something. Thus, programming language. Scripts are programs.