!piracy@lemmy.ml has also been blocked from lemmy.world.

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Lemmy.world has released an official response.

  • @tron@lemm.ee
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    1962 years ago

    Fucking Lemmy.world is hot garbage. They’re down every day and are constantly defederating with any instance that doesn’t fit their narrow, sanitized world views. It’s also one of the most recommended Lemmy’s with more new users going there than anywhere else. I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain. Especially if this domain makes as many boneheaded decisions as lemmy.world

    • Demigodrick
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      162 years ago

      100% spot on. I got called all sorts of names for pointing this out, but maybe my own fault for pointing it out on one of their posts! 😅

    • quirzle
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      I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain.

      I agree, but 50% is still better than 100%. I definitely appreciate that I’m reading about this while being totally unaffected personally rather than just disappearing entirely like what happens with a banned subreddit.

      • lemmyvore
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        2 years ago

        We badly need Lemmy clients that can merge instances even if they’re defederated, as well as the other way around, filter out entire instances even if your instance won’t defederate from them. Letting instance owners dictate what you can or cannot see is not the way.

        There are clients that will do the former (eg. Liftoff) but I’m not aware of any that will do the latter. I don’t understand why, it can’t be that hard to filter users and communities by instance.

          • CH3DD4R_G0B-L1N
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            12 years ago

            it does, but its broken. the list resets every time you close the app. At least on the full release current build

        • Redjard
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          42 years ago

          I wanna say connect could do it for a while now. It’ll certainly come to many clients

        • Buckets
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          12 years ago

          I’m curious as to what you’d need(other than a server) to spin oneupp

          • @Loulou@lemmy.mindoki.com
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            52 years ago

            Some time and tinkering.

            It’s quite straightforward (especially if you don’t use nginx or need email) to use the docker install.

            So you need a Linux box (IDK about windows) a fix IP with a port routed to your machine and some free time. Oh yeah a domain name pointing to said IP.

            • Buckets
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              32 years ago

              That’s good to know, thanks! Would love to try that some day

              • @DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de
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                22 years ago

                It’s definitely achievable and I’d encourage anyone to play around with self hosting.

                The main thing to acknowledge before getting started is that it’s an ongoing commitment, like a puppy. Getting it to work initially is the easy part, you can follow a guide and have something working in a few hours of effort. Running in to problems later on is the tricky part, automated backups and upgrades et cetera, something needs a re-start, things just stop working for some reason.

                • Buckets
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                  12 years ago

                  Ah yeah, I can imagine it’s not a one and done thing, you’d have to do a lot of support with your server, can see it being a massive time sink

    • @Netman@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      12 years ago

      They should have shut down registrations a long time before they gained such a majority of users.

      They stand behind the lie that “if we didn’t let people in, they wouldn’t know where to go”… as if it’s so hard to create a new registration page that re-routes people to other instances.

      I’ll never understand the selfishness of people like that. They know they’re actively hurting all of lemmy, but they want to keep all the users to themselves. This thing only works if it’s a collection of smaller instances.

    • @can@sh.itjust.works
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      492 years ago

      A lot of people register there initially to get their feet wet and move on to another instance later for these reasons. At least we have subscriptions/blocks transferring tools now.

    • @primalanimist@lemmy.today
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      22 years ago

      I started on lemmy.world because it was the most popular server at the time and I didn’t really understand how the fediverse worked. I spent the first month sort of just learning to stop trying to think like I was on reddit. The federation feels to me like pirate TV/ ham radio, people broadcasting their visions and worldviews while rebroadcasting other stations/nodes. Each instance, has it’s own “feel”. I see the entire instance I’m on as a greater solarpunk community, which is filled with smaller, related communities of people all sharing their own interests.

      This is a memory of how the Internet was first envisioned by many people, before the corporate takeover. I am interested in FOSS, I am interested in “piracy”, I am interested in any exchange of knowledge that helps us work together, spread skills, and empower communities, both virtual and on the ground.

      But all that aside, lemmy.world is just too unreliable for it to be my entrypoint into the fediverse. Which is why I looked around and found a place that feels more in line with my own sense of hopefulness for the future.

    • @guts@lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      I think lemmy.world gather the kind of redditors that like sanitized world views, the power of decentralization makes us choose an instance without those hot garbaje takes as lemmy.world.

  • @tellah@sh.itjust.works
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    352 years ago

    If I was on that instance and subscribed to this community, I wouldn’t see these posts any more? If I wasn’t paying attention would I even know it was gone?

  • @skadden@ctrlaltelite.xyz
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    242 years ago

    This is ultimately why I decided to roll my own instance. I’m keeping my backup here though in case I mess something up, but full control is nice to have.

    • Fedora
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      82 years ago

      Self-Host Gang. Instances with whitelist mode suck tho.

        • Fedora
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          22 years ago

          Whitelist mode? Instances that only federate with certain instances, and nobody else. Blacklist mode is the opposite: Instances that federate with everyone except certain instances.

          • @Loulou@lemmy.mindoki.com
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            12 years ago

            Yeah that got me pretty hard, I thought whitelist was just adding instances, but alas it banned any other instance. Weird choice IMO.

            Worked around it (I think) by making a user and have that user sub to communities, but being able to include a whole instance would have been great.

  • slepthenbite
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    202 years ago

    Is that the thread on .world that someone created an account on .world specifically to complain? What an asshole.

  • X3I
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    262 years ago

    Was there some context or discussion about that over there? If I recall correctly, lemmy.world is hosted in Germany, right? The lawyers there are quite extreme when it comes to cracking down on piracy; is a whole business model… So maybe .world is just overly cautious

    • Madbrad200OP
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      2 years ago

      Just released an announcement, see the pic in the post.

      • stebo
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        172 years ago

        that announcement is also a buch of horsecrap

    • @narp@feddit.de
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      202 years ago

      I’m on a german instance (feddit.de) and it’s federated with db0.

      I think it’s just lemmy.world bullshit.

      Has anyone read their post about their downtime?

      “We shouldn’t close registration or limit the amount of communities because we’re not even the biggest instance in the fediverse

      Like, what?! The argument was always that they are the biggest in Lemmy! It felt like they were trying to gaslight the users.

      Same as the other arguments, like new users being weirded out if they can’t register to lemmy.world or apps using them as default. So them being down all the time doesn’t matter? Or that lemmy.ml was the biggest instance and closed down registration and new users registered to other instances without a problem?

      I’m really weirded out how hard they try to be the “main” thing on Lemmy.

      • Marxine
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        82 years ago

        Almost like an “intentional and kinda aggressive lib takeover”. I wouldn’t put it past the admins to try monetizing their users at some point.

    • Throwaway
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      42 years ago

      Fucking Germany. Like I get having the laws, but they are being abused for absolute nonsense.

  • @Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    452 years ago

    Its fair enough. They gotta protect their ass.

    I just logged into a user made on this instance. Problem solved. And lemmy.world has had a ton of downtime anyway. Always trouble loading comments and often trouble loading posts

  • @haych@lemmy.one
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    342 years ago

    Lemmy.world sucks, it’s constantly down and they block communities people want to federate with, and leave communities federated people want blocked.

  • NormalC
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    2 years ago

    If Lemmy.world decides to roll advertisements we’ll know why at least.

  • @silvercove@lemdro.id
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    272 years ago

    Lemmy world is turning into Reddit v2 or Twitter v2. I’m happy about my decision to leave that dumpster fire. Let’s hope this nonsense helps others to migrate as well.

    • Brickfrog
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      372 years ago

      Lemmy world is turning into Reddit v2

      Not really, even Reddit still has piracy related subreddits (at least for now).

        • Marxine
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          112 years ago

          Lemmy is advancing so much and so fast even Spez has competition rising up to the challenge.

          I don’t have any issues about lemmy.world existing though, it keeps some users I wouldn’t like very much farther away from me. I consider it as a “buffer zone” of sorts.