that’s just a troll, downvote and move on
*downvote, block, and move on. Makes the moving on part more efficient.
And Report.
Get the instance admins and mods aware, and get the troll booted out.
no, don’t block. blocking only makes it so that you don’t see that bs behaviour, but it’s still there. instead, report or if you are mod/admin, ban outright. if you want to block anyway, at least report beforehand
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That’s all well and good in theory, but in practice it isn’t as easy.
Communities here will naturally centralize to the biggest ones. If all of a sudden an admin of the instance that a certain massive community is on goes bananas and starts de-federating from all sorts of instances and makes stupid decisions, just saying “hurr durr just go and make your own instance and community” isn’t helpful because 99% of the people there won’t just pick up and start again on a different instance.
The decentralized nature was supposed to solve the problems with centralization, but really all it does is make the same centralization problems happen more often.
Yeah, I don’t know why they make drama out of this, it was just a desicion, dumb, unnecessary, coward or whatever you want to but they’re in their right at the end of the day
I don’t know why they make drama out of this
Because you keep coming back on additional alts to vomit more rage at LGBTQIA+ people.
I see a lot of people taking issue with how it was handled. An obvious troll controlling sock puppets apparently spurred this, sure.
But the mods of Lemmy World went on a reddit-like spiteful ban spree, apparently forgetting that we can all see their modlogs or simply not caring about it. People got up in arms over the very childish and assholish behavior of the Lemmy World mods, and folks were eventually unbanned in some cases, but still banned from the main communities as punishment. For example, people saying they would just leave and federate their own instance got banned with mod messages telling them “let us help you with that”.
Woah, now that’s some childish petty shit
Unfortunately most mods become mods because they desire the power to do things like this. They don’t want to help foster and grow a community, they just want the power to ban people they don’t like at will.
That’s really poor moderation. Do you have the details of where to look to see it all?
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Didnt lemmy.world defederate to not get into any legal trouble?
No one has been able to correctly enumerate what “legal trouble” there was. It was proactive with nothing leveraged against them.
They’re just normal people running the instance, not a major corporation with a legal team. While it’s unfortunate they defederated, it’s understandable that they’d rather be overly cautious when it comes to stuff they can be sued for
Yep I love piracy but I have a real life and I’d think twice about what I hosted if i ran an instance…no matter what I believe and the low likelihood of legal consequences. Hosting an instance is a hobby. I have to click two buttons in the app I use to access this place on another account. Who cares.
it’s understandable that they’d rather be overly cautious when it comes to stuff they can be sued for
Anyone can be sued for anything. That alone isn’t a good reason.
A website like this is never going to be actually held liable for people making comments about piracy. That’s not how the law works.
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Nintendo after removing Mario: Mega Cum (1995) for purchase and it’s gets pirated by 30 people
Do not feed the trolls. Happiness doesn’t have to be a zero sum game.
Neat! Deeply ineffective communication! Starting to feel more like reddit by the day!
I’m all for letting servers choose what they want to ban and allow. Its easy enough to just create a new account on a different server if you do not agree with the server admins decisions.
That’s the beauty of federation. The user can also setup his own instance to access the content if he wishes. He might have to learn how to do it, but its totally doable.
Ha, what a loser. Artists don’t deserve to be paid for their work.
Artists don’t deserve to be paid for their work.
That’s the take of the suits and investors that receive the staggering majority of the revenue from the companies you’re stanning for.
Most rappers are legitimate criminals some even murderers. They don’t deserve shit.
People act like “normal” people aren’t criminals. The world is really dark. Oh yeah not to mention ruining lives and families by selling them crack or pimping out women and kids.
Snoop drove for a hitter.
Source: seent it irl.
“Most rappers” you got a source for this or are you as completely unhinged as you sound lmfao
My life growing up with emcees and bloods that connect with Boston and ny/bk/bx. As well as being in the graffiti culture. I’ve had death threats against my family and kids and gunshots directly outside my house, and been stalked. Seen fist sized rocks of meth and automatic weapons.
Believe it or not not heeding the wisdom will be your loss if you ever end up mixed up in the bullshit. It made me almost kill myself and I’m still dealing with it.
Not talking about pop rap. Aside from the old heads from the 90s.
Every dealer has a boss. Every boss has to protect their life. Every boss has a crew. I’ve seen shit deep. I know the way it all works. Favors for favors etc. If you aren’t the guy on the top then your freedom relies on being submissive to the one above you. I’ve seen people do anything to stay out of prison.
I for one would simply not get involved with a drug dealing gang enterprise lmfao
Also “trust me bro it happened to me” is not a source.
I didn’t I just grew up around them. They groomed me basically to be naive to their bullshit. Once they realized I actually knew they started threatening my family. Stealing shit etc.
I never sold drugs or painted with them but they realized I knew about their names, and where they live, and how they make their money. They are really sloppy with it.
Every dealer has a boss
Might’ve been the case 20 years ago but nowadays you can buy drugs in bulk through the dark net. If you have good opsec you won’t be caught that easily and it’s way safer. If you don’t care about OpSec, you shouldn’t sell or even own drugs in the first place
Lmfao shut up you weird ass dork nobody cares
Sorry ur suckass at trapping
What a horrible response, you sound like an awful person.
Why are all my encounters with the hexbear instance similar? What is that instance about?
Yeah im a super awful person “iHUNTcriminals”
Lol
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Who wants to bet “criminals” is a euphemism for a certain melanin-rich ethnic group?
Wait you’re saying that if someone committed a crime before then they don’t deserve pay for their work ever?
I know they have “arts” in their name, but Electronic Arts doesn’t make art.
So just pirate indie releases right? As artist for manor companies already don’t get paid
Pretty sure the artists get paid whether consumers pirate the final product or not? The Bungie devs don’t get paid less money for every game that is pirated 🤡
Actually they might. Game developers get bonuses based on how well the game sold. Well a lot at least. It’s not just games though.
I still pirate things. It’s just way more convenient than having 30 subscriptions
My prime motive for piracy! The current model is exploitative of the artists and must be ushered quickly to its own defeat.
They shouldn’t have to strike until they lose their houses like so many do now. Every year they receive less and less of the profit of their work (and its certainly not because of any excess going to those in need). It’s a shame and an embarrassment on society.
What’s this drama now? The “anti-piracy” person sounds like a troll. Especially if they’re shit posting like this on a piracy-focused community. 🤦🏻♂️
He is LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
It just looks like some Lemmy users are falling for an obvious troll.
Best part is when they start pretending to be stupid, after already having demonstrated they aren’t. Which then paradoxically proves that they are.
It’s such an obvious over the top troll too guys, come on
the lemmy.world admins specifically fell for it, since they did block this community.
Why did they defederated in the first place? Did something happens with another instance due to copyright problems? Or they just got scared for no reason?
To be clear they just blocked the piracy community, it isn’t a full defederation from dbzer0
Lemmy.world has a rule against illegal content. This troll was trolling and got mad at dbzer0 for banning them. The troll then demanded the admins of lemmy.world defed from dbzer0 because piracy is illegal, and they blocked this and several other piracy communities at the troll’s request.
And the Shrooms community, which moved to !Shrooms@sh.itjust.works
Wow. Hats off to him. Guess the lemmy.world admins aren’t are smart as they should be,.
they have been doing a lot of weird moves lately
I gather they might be a little more biased than they let on. I’m not sure how self-aware they are of it, though.
you bet they are, it took them a month to “communicate” and “decide with community” to defed exploding heads, allowing them to grow 3x in the meantime, entire week for rammy site, but hexbear, a much larger instance that wasn’t caught proselytizing outside, got defederated “preemptively”. what the fuck is this bullshit?
they do have pretty strong biases, but i’m guessing they got caught in their own circlejerk that tells them that all of that is normal. just look at any pinned post on .world and go into comments
i’m guessing they got caught in their own circlejerk that tells them that all of that is normal.
Yeah, I consider it the reddit 2.0 instance fwiw.
Does anybody have the greentext that goes something like
Pirate game
Company loses $60 because it’s theft
Company regains $60 after deleting game from hard drive
Pirate one million copies, company bankrupt from massive theft
Buy insolvent company for cheap
Delete all game copies, company profitable again
Embedded version:
I am human, and this action was performed automatically.Maybe one of the tightest written indictments of IP law. Companies “losing” money when no money changes hands makes me laugh.
That’s the stock market, bay-bee!
good bot
I love that, it’s almost like how banks make money with loans: create money out of thin air, lend it, profit.
Ayo I’m in the screenshot letsa fucking GOOOOOOOOOO-
For context, Bungiefan_ak has no fewer than 4 alts that I’ve seen (all on different instances with the same username) and has spent his time on !memes@lemmy.ml continuously spamming heavily transphobic, homophobic, and objectifying sexist “memes”. Just about every one of his alts is now banned but I’m sure more will pop up.
Now, why the fuck he cares so much about pirates at this point, I haven’t a clue…
Now, why the fuck he cares so much about pirates at this point, I haven’t a clue…
Look at the username they are so attached to. Bungie fan. This person appears to have tied their identity to a video game studio that doesn’t even know they exist. My guess is that they’re playing white knight for their corporate waifu.
That would explain why he’s such a snob about piracy on his Reddit subs. For context on Reddit this person (pretty sure they’re the same person) banned me from a sub he moderates (I believe it was r/3dshacks) and he tried to get me banned from r/EmulationOnAndroid and also weirdly enough r/teenagers he failed at getting me banned from them by the way because those subs aren’t anti-piracy bungie stans like he is, simply put they don’t care.
But yeah he was a real loser, I think he got removed from most of the subs he moderated by Reddit though, and the participation in the protest has all but killed the remaining Sub. From Allmighty powermod to a pathetic whiny troll (though I guess he still was a whiny troll before, he just seemed more respectable from the outside).
From being a power mod to just pestering mods. Is the planet healing after all?
It’s been happening to a lot of powermods on Reddit so probably. I should note that as far as I’m aware this guy is the only one who decided to harass lemmy for it.
From r/3dshacks I could understand, but from r/EmulationOnAndroid??? they be pirating emulators on that sub, they do not care lmao
Keep in mind he isn’t even a mod there, he was trying to get me banned because he was under the delusion that they cared as much about Piracy as he did, they didn’t end up banning me, but he did argue with me for a while, even said that Citra Devs support his harassment, before quickly trying to retract it.
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I turned on Bungie when they shifted Halo development to Microsoft. Although I no longer use a Mac lol
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I reported that mother fucker. Scum like him are easy to spot and clean up.
As did I, multiple times.
- /u/Bungiefan_ak@lemmy.world (modlog, banned)
- /u/Bungiefan_ak@lemdro.id (modlog)
- /u/Bungiefan_ak@lemmy.ca (modlog, banned)
- /u/Bungiefan_ak@reddthat.com (modlog, banned)
- /u/Bungiefan_ak@startrek.website (modlog, banned)
- /u/Bungiefan_ak@lemmy.dbzer0.com (modlog, banned)
- /u/Bungiefan_ak@lemm.ee (modlog, banned)
- /u/Bungiefan_ak@sopuli.xyz (modlog, banned)
- /u/Bungiefan_ak@geddit.social (modlog)
- /u/Bungiefan_ak@sh.itjust.works (modlog, banned)
- /u/Bungiefan_ak@literature.cafe (modlog, was denied entry by chad admin @gabe@literature.cafe lmao)
There’s likely going to be more
Doing the lord’s work. What a shitfest of a modlog, real winner this guy is
Edit: dear God he keeps MAKING MORE. This dude seriously needs to get a life or something
I’ll keep an eye out, and I sort everything by new anyway.
Yeah we banned them on reddthat 2 days ago. I’m glad to see I’m not an outlier. Initially we should a 7 day ban should suffice. But then that user decided to message the admin directly and insult them.
Probably the fastest way to get your account banned.
Edit: The message in question. 👀 (Attempted spoiler open if you dare)
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!<I believe the spoiler tag is the following on Lemmy
::: spoiler spoiler label sh*t to hide :::spoiler label
sh*t to hide
you have all the qualities of a womanly woman
real “breasted boobily” energy
For context, Bungiefan_ak has no fewer than 4 alts that I’ve seen (all on different instances with the same username)
Spending that much money and time stanning for fucking Bungie of all decaying and bloated and corrupt treat companies is really something.
and has spent his time on !memes@lemmy.ml continuously spamming heavily transphobic, homophobic, and objectifying sexist “memes”.
OF FUCKING COURSE.
Maybe he just likes to argue with people. I have 1 such classmate. His “opinions” are always just opposite to who he’s talking with. But apparently outside of school he’s normal.
I love arguing with people, I’ll even argue points I don’t necessarily believe, but that’s not the same as trolling. The difference is doing it in good faith
Trolls aren’t trying to convince anyone or engage in debate, they’re in it to russle jimmies, own the libs, or whatever. There’s not really an intellectual aspect to it, it’s arguing on emotion
It’s easy to be a contrarian when opinions are not something you actually hold, but simply hats to be swapped out or discarded as necessary.
Kid’s probably on the debate team, they live to argue. Good luck figuring out their real opinions though, they might not even have any.
Sadly this is just how many people operate, though I imagine the emphasis on L-D debate and convincing judges certainly contributes to our culture of engaging that way.
Probably because one of his alts was on dbzer0 and was banned for transphobia
Out of curiosity, just someone not supporting trans people or lgbtq are getting banned or they are taking asshole behaviour and spewing hate speech?
Edit: good fucking world. I am not against lgbtq. I am supporting it. I am a bi curious guy. I am all in for their civil rights. I was asking a question about why that guy was banned. For asshole behaviour or just having a different opinion. I don’t believe just for telling someone doesn’t care about lgbtq is not a reason for ban.
If not supporting means you feel that we don’t deserve civil rights then yeah they should be banned
What I’m curious is, how did that asshole get accepted on lemmy.dbzer0 but was able to be weeded out on literature.cafe like shouldn’t it have been obvious to the dbzer0 reviewer what kind of person he was from the registration form? Of coarse I’m assuming he was honest on the forms, I guess technically anyone can lie on the form and then turn around and spit in your face once accepted.
“Not supporting” can be silence too. No concern trolling necessary. Or welcome.
Someone actively spewing hate speech in addition to repeated attempts to troll the communities it posts to
is “not supporting someone” your newspeak for being asshole? because i am pretty sure that any group of people doesn’t give a flying fuck about you or anyone else not “supporting them”, just let them be and they will be happy.
My experience is that when someone discovered they need certain civil rights but don’t have them, often staring down thr barrels of police service pistols, then yes, they give all the flying fucks in the universe about being supported.
This is one of those reasons that Leopards Ate My Face is a known trope and community. Sadly, the ones who empathize already have their share of leopard teeth marked scars.
Given I and many people I know are not going to survive genocide in the US, if ever it goes full post-Wannsee, I have little patience for anyone who does not stand at least against the transnational white power movement (aka the white Christian nationalist movement). That includes even conservatives who wish the GOP would less extreme like in the Nixon and Reagan years. That train was always going to inevitably lead to the political crisis in the US, today.
you missed my point and you wrote three angry paragraphs about it, good for you! 🤣
My experience is that
my experience is that when someone tries to put inequality sign between being an asshole and “not supporting them”, he is trying to make an excuse for being an asshole.
what do you even mean by “supporting them”? do you bring them food and your old clothes every sunday or something? how do you express on the internet that you “don’t support” someone/something?
when i am indifferent to a topic, whatever that topic is, i don’t feel the need to go on the internet and express that indifference. when i talk about something, it is either because i am for or against it. so when you are being called for being an asshole, you weren’t just “not supporting them”, whoever them is in the context, you were probably an asshole and now you are trying to mask it.
(to prevent further confusion - i am aware you are not the person i originally replied to, so any “you” in this text is just a figure of speech)
Well, there’s a pretty wide spectrum in “not supporting”. Can range between “cool bro, not my thing but you do you just leave me out of it”, which is a rational albeit reserved response… or you could be like Bungiefan, who spams memes calling transgender people pedophiles (multiple times).
The guy posts anti-LGBT memes everywhere. He’s one of these losers that likes to use “cuck” in his comments. I’d ban on that alone. Hell, I’d ban anyone for being a Trump supporter or a tankie. Then again, that’s why I’m not a mod, never was, and shouldn’t be.
Oh wow, he’s an even bigger loser than I remember on Reddit, or maybe I just didn’t trigger him at the time (maybe he would’ve reacted differently if I was trans or at least if it was clear to him).
Oh. Oh that makes so much more sense. His sad little idea of vengeance is to now attack anything piracy related and get dbzero ostracized from LW just because pirates have more morals than he does lol
How do you people find these alts. I scroll by, like or don’t, but I have no idea if they are related.
Do you guys have a 7th sense or something?
He’s using the same username on different instances, not the sharpest tool in the shed.
That’s kinda a giveaway.
These are the alts, counts, scores, and ban status my instance is aware of:
name | domain | banned | posts | comments | post_score | comment_score --------------+------------------+--------+-------+----------+------------+--------------- Bungiefan_ak | lemmy.world | t | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 Bungiefan_ak | lemmy.dbzer0.com | t | 0 | 2 | 0 | -14 Bungiefan_ak | startrek.website | t | 0 | 0 | -35 | -4 Bungiefan_ak | reddthat.com | t | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 Bungiefan_ak | lemm.ee | t | 0 | 7 | 0 | -119 Bungiefan_ak | lemdro.id | f | 0 | 0 | 0 | -22 Bungiefan_ak | geddit.social | f | 0 | 0 | 0 | -30 Bungiefan_ak | sopuli.xyz | t | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 Bungiefan_ak | lemmy.ca | t | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 Bungiefan_ak | sh.itjust.works | t | 0 | 7 | 0 | -287Trekkies don’t fuck around apparently.
We do not 😂
Well that’s a record, not a single positive score in sight from any of the accounts
16 comments, 512 downvotes 🥲
Quite the sense of pride and accomplishment this Bungie fan must be feeling, huh
that guy is the most succesfull troll in history. he single-handedly created havoc that big that russian trollfarm wouldn’t have to be ashamed for and you continue to give him audience. just ban him and move on.
That’s so funny, I’m just waiting when lemmy .world will defederate .ml and beehaw because of them.
Hexbear is one of the oldest lemmy instances, but only recently started federating.
Are you suggesting that for the last 3+ years, someone was running a troll farm where the trolls could only talk to each other?
not sure if you are serious, but no, that’s not what i am suggesting.
Oh, sorry then, I must have misunderstood.
Since federation, a lot of libs who’ve never encountered a leftist opinion have been calling us russian or chinese bots for not supporting the latest imperialist adventures.
Literally no one mentioned hexbear, or leftism in general, before you did. Quite a victim complex you got there.
don’t take me wrong, i am pretty sure i am not in the same boat with comrade who thinks that “not supporting the latest imperialist adventures” is some clever newspeak, but your comment was first time i have heard about “hexbear” - whatever that is.
clever newspeak
If that’s what you want to call it. I was just using the old-timey term to contextualize US actions in Ukraine/China/Iran/DPRK/Niger among the hundred other wars waged for the same purpose over the last couple centuries.
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I wasnt the one who chose to repost the screenshot, I just call trolls as I see them
The troll doesn’t care, at all. It got banned clearly or it would be trolling here directly, it’s retaliation. Child psychology will tell you everything you’d need to know about that “user”.
Maybe we shouldn’t feed that troll ?
I think in that case a shadowban would be the best way to do it. Or an IP ban if that’s possible.
In any case this is giving him even more reason to keep on harassing people for attention.
An entire instance just fed the troll, pretty sure the cats out of the bag on this one…
For context, Bungiefan_ak has no fewer than 4 alts that I’ve seen (all on different instances with the same username)
I mean, this is one of the benefits of the lemmyverse - using the same username across different instances. It’s not subversive.
That’s not to lend a defence of this guy - just didn’t want having Lemmy alts presented as a bad thing.
Having Lemmy alts is not a bad thing. Using them to circumvent bans very much is, tho.
At least he makes them super easy to find by reusing the identical name lol
