The new data — comprehensive and definitive — should put to rest the countervailing narratives over Musk’s management of the app. Under his stewardship, X’s daily user base has declined from an estimated 140 million users to 121 million, with a widening gap between people who check the app daily vs. monthly. X’s remaining daily users are engaged similarly as before. But the pool is shrinking. Apptopia pulls its data from more than 100,000 apps on iOS and Android, along with publicly available sources.
So apparently it lost only 13% of daily users? Thats a smaller number than I thought. Still bad news for Twitter though.
On the other hand, it shows the power of content creators and niche communities. I used less Twitter but cannot delete it because it is literally how I connect with my niche community on there.
In related news, Twitter is up to 80% nazi billionaire despot disinformation bots now. Congratulations!
They call it rebrand but changing a name to something really bad is a rebrand now? Isn’t it supposed to come with different behavior or different style as well?
It’s the same man child running it as before, nothing has changed.
I’m convinced that muskrat did this to destroy a channel of communication. It sure helped me look for more free and open source alternatives. I never used Twitter other than seeing live on the spot events.
Saudi monarchy and other rich folks probably encouraged him further.
I still use Twitter but I think honestly that I could live without it and I reckon most other people could too. It’s just force of habit more than anything else. Mastodon, or Threads, or Blue Sky would all be quite happy to pick up the slack. I actually use Mastodon too but I wish the news media would produce feeds for it rather than rely on mirrors.
The place has become a cesspool tbh and with no moderation it only gets worse with each passing day. Blue ticks actually pay to elevate their moronic hate views above others so more moderate and normal voices get drowned out. Musk is mulling charging everyone money to “combat bots” (bullshit), and mulling pulling out of the EU because of their pesky requirements about moderation. I wish he’d do all this stuff and bring the whole thing crashing down.
Just you wait until elections really kick off, then you’ll really see how shit it is.
mastodon finally clicked for me and i don’t miss twitter at all. sometimes i accidentally load twitter out of force of habit, but immediately recognize how much it sucks now and close it again. Likewise, reddit’s dead to me too now. i’m finally starting to feel like decentralized federated social media systems might actually work out.
What is reddit? That shit site with psycho owners who want to go public because they are convinced they are successful, despite not being able to make any money and alienating their moderators and userbase? Lols.
i started reading your reply in the voice of Dracula from the intro to Symphony of the Night XD
“WHAT is REDDIT 🍷💫💥 but a MISERABLE pile of SHITPOSTS!”
The 'net ill-needs a failure such as him.
His terms of service are as empty as his revenues!
all this to say, yeah fam 100% totally agree
Out of curiosity, can I ask what it was that made mastodon click?
I had two or three goes before realising that choosing the right instance can give you an engaging “local” feed. That seems dramatically less important on lemmy though.
i’m not so sure it was even my local feed that got me feeling like i belonged, really; more that I started reflexively defaulting to the federated feed and found it to be much more lively. Perhaps it was actually the changes brought on by time. Perhaps it was because twitter is rotting like a forgotten corpse in a warm, damp room and all the smart people who actually give a shit finally all started to say “fuck this” and enough of a critical mass has finally accumulated in federated services for them to affect its overall feel. I definitely see content from technically minded, creative, motivated people more on mastodon than i EVER did on twitter, but especially now. Twitter now is just … sad, and it reminds me that I have a better place that I’d enjoy visiting more.
Funnily enough twitter just suddenly got much worse like a couple days ago for me, only pushing blue-check accounts so I might just finally stop using it
You hypothetically showed them.
Only 13%?? With everything he’s going through, it seems very little to me. I think that the turning point would be top-level institutions and politicians changing Mastodon, I think that as long as that does not happen Twitter will still be relevant unfortunately
13% may not sound like a lot, but it includes almost all of the 10% who weren’t complete idiots.
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So I guess you’re still using it?
Considering they said almost all, that’s not the gotcha you think it is.
Hey, this comment reads like you’re just dunking on another user. If that is not what you meant to do, please try to communicate more clearly, and if that is what you meant to do, please refrain while commenting on Beehaw in order to be(e) nice. Thanks!
That’s just the 13% who have stopped using it daily I imagine, who were already probably super addicted to it.
Not sure if weekly/monthly users dropping out would be included in that tally. Also it says nothing about activity time from the daily users. It’s possible the users that stuck around may not be using it as much i.e. 1-2 tweets or comments a day now vs 10-20 before.
That’s just the 13% who have stopped using it daily I imagine, who were already probably super addicted to it.
It’s the opposite. As per the article, daily users remained consistent while monthly users saw the 13% drop.
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Can’t you just follow them via one of the mirror instances like bird.makeup?
Interesting.
Every time I follow a twitter/X link it asks me to log in to read it. Which I cannot do as I never bothered to get one. Is there a way to read those links without an account?
bird.makeup is fediverse server software. it creates mirror accounts from twitter users, which means that you can follow twitter accounts from Mastodon (or CalcKey, Pleroma, etc).
You can also just use something like nitter.net to follow and browsing Twitter without an account.
I don’t have any intention to follow anything, I just want to follow the occasional twitter link.
Umm… Only 13%?
I thought it would have been more…
Well, the question for me is how many active contributors have left. If those who leave are lurkers, it doesn’t really matter. If those who leave are mostly creators, that’s a serious problem for the platform.
Actually it makes sense. Look around and check how many people actually take action even if it’s inconvenient. Almost no one. For example Amazon and Uber are bad for society in ways that most people understand and are aware of (monopoly, gig economy, killing small businesses, exploiting workers) but what % of society actively avoid them? 5%? Less? So a lot of people will complain that Twitter under Elon is big source of hate speech and misinformation but vast majority will not do anything about it. Probably 5% left for this reason and the rest got annoyed with technical glitches and other changes. Most sheeple will keep visiting.
You had me until the “sheeple” thing.
How do you call people that do whatever everyone is doing without thinking about the consequences?
Idiots.
Amazon is a tough one. Definitely a ton of problems but online shopping in general is very useful for a lot of people. Demanding proper treatment of workers and supporting smaller businesses instead of feeding the monopoly is important and a good start. Giving up Amazon/online shopping would mean having much less access to products for a lot of people. Online shopping displaced catalog shopping, which has been around since Sears catalog days, and is unlikely to go away.
There’s plenty of other online shops. I avoid amazon and can get 99% of products from other stores. I would survive without getting the other 1%. People use amazon to save 15 minutes it would take them to find stuff in other places. They know the real cost of those 15 minutes saved but they don’t care.
I think you’re understating what Amazon adds to the online shopping experience. It’s not simply a matter of lazily saving a few minutes. But as long as you’re not arguing against online shopping altogether, which your original comment might suggest, I’m inclined to agree that not feeding the monopoly is probably the right thing to do. Of course, similar things could be said for any number of large corporations (Verizon, Comcast, Home Depot to name just a few). Is it people blatantly not caring or something more complex and insidious?
Well, the question for me is how many active contributors have left. If those who leave are lurkers, it doesn’t really matter. If those who leave are mostly creators, that’s a serious problem for the platform.
The increase in the number of bots made up for the rest. The “pay a small fee to get an I’m definitely human sticker” scheme was really popular in the misinformation community.
Good point…
That is the same reason I still have Facebook. Although the content i post there comes from their other app IG, there isnt any political garbage on my IG feed to wade through so I still use that.
(i come here for my political garbage fix)
Interestingly the Facebook algorithm works so well for me it never shows me irl people, or politicians. Only animals, art and news articles (mainly long form editorials from NYT).
Aww. Bad news for Elon Twitler
A must have browser extension to avoid accidentally adding to their traffic volume: https://github.com/SimonBrazell/nitter-redirect
you can use libredirect to include other backends too: https://libredirect.github.io/
Nope. Nothing failed. This was Elon’s gambit the entire time. He wanted to tank Twitter. He was never interested in improving it or making it profitable. Why do you think Saudi Arabia gave him 22B to buy it?
Ah yes, the good old 5d chess. Why would he do that
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The theory is that he secretly has shorted Twitter somehow. Which I could see, but it’d take an immense amount of planning that no one has picked up on. So, I’ll just continue watching the dumpster fire
He can’t short twitter, when he bought it he took it private.
Because he is throwing a tantrum. The toy he bought won’t do what he wants, and people won’t play with him, so he is breaking the toy. It isn’t a rational decision, it is a tantrum.
Well the banks that invested 13 Billion in the take over will not like that if it were true and will sue him.
Elon Musk: slams dick in car door
Musk Fans: Masterful gambit, sir!
Im reminded of this short diddy https://youtu.be/9ywnLQywz74
Your position is that a wealthy man deliberately burned 22 billion dollars to destroy microblogging? That he’s intelligent enough to plan and execute this perfectly, but too dumb to think of a better way to spend 22 billion on himself?
I think this theory falls apart on examination, to say nothing of Occam’s Razor which argues heavily in favor of sheer incompetence.
The most obvious explanation to me is that following so much success running pump and dump scams on his followers in some stocks but mostly unregulated crypto, he decided he was untouchable. Then tried to run another such scheme on twitter stock, but this time threw in a legally binding contract into the manipulation because he’s too dumb to realise how dumb he is.
He got so used to fucking around, he thought he’d never have to find out…
Obviously, to ruin the world and complete his turn into a Bond villain, he needed to tank the 5th most popular social media site, which has been proven over and over to have less influence than anyone thinks.
This paints Elon like a calculated intellectual that carefully weighs his decisions and has a great team around him. When in reality, he’s a petulant, ego maniac that is far more swayed by his mercurial emotions than reason and intellect. His many prepubescent tantrums over the years is evidence of that.
Money doesn’t mean anything. It doesn’t make you a genius because you used your status to con someone out of it. If you don’t know how the tech works, Elon sounds like a fucking genius. A visionary. But if you are in the field, you’ll realize that his promises (living on Mars, brain chips, etc.) are just fiction.
I’m not sure from the tone of your post whether you are trying to agree or disagree with my conclusion because it reads slightly argumentative, but I assure you I agree with you 100% and think this supports my point perfectly so maybe I’m misreading the tone. I upvoted you either way for being right in your points whether you come to the same conclusion as me or not.
He burned 22 billion because he was forced to after being a doofus. He is not destroying microblogging, he is destroying the environment around microblogging on his platform. It is his new toy that was never worth what he paid for it, so there is little point (to him) in trying to recoup monetary value. It’s value is to him is being his personal playground.
This wouldn’t be the first time it happened: Stop Talking to Each Other and Start Buying Things: Three Decades of Survival in the Desert of Social Media
He should start charging the users to make up for the loss ;) (praying and hoping this damn site dies soon)
It’s certain that of the 120 million that remain, a huge number are bots or spam accounts of some kind. They will be there last “users” to quit the platform. And Elon will be happy to collect ad money to show those bots your ads until the very end.
