Just would like to have a discussion on the topic. I’ve purchased around 20ish movies/shows on Vudu, and my wife has grown to be unhappy with Vudu’s UI and especially how the watch progress works. I am curious what some others thoughts on this are. My initial thoughts are I recognize I’ve purchased a license to watch the content, but feel that because I’ve purchased it I should have the right to retain total control over it and do what I please. I would like to purchase movies on physical media from now on, but wouldn’t like to repurchase all the same movies and shows again when I’ve already paid for them
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It’s just a little less bad than murder.
Why are you asking is piracy “wrong” on a piracy forum?
Just to have a discussion and get to see some of the different opinions out there.
Since you’re talking about “wrong”, rather than “illegal”, you seem to approach this from a moral angle instead of a legal one. And when it comes to morality, that’s something you can only define for yourself.
Personally I don’t see any problems there, nor do I see a problem with pirating unlicensed content. If I would never have paid to watch a certain movie, the rightsholder doesn’t make a factual loss. They can cry about opportunity costs all day long, but if it’s not a “cinema vs. piracy” but a “piracy vs. nothing at all” discussion, it’s pretty much a moot point.
Yeah I know it’s not legal in my country and state, but was just trying to get a feel for different opinions on the morality of my question. For me I just like making sure the creator of the media I really enjoy get’s some kind of support, that way I’m voting a little with my dollar. So far I’m really thinking I’ve paid for the media once and once is more than enough.
You’ve paid for the right to watch the movie. The movie industry will argue that you’ve just paid for the right to access that physical copy and I’m sure from a legal point of view they’re right as they’ve lobbied to increase control out of greed and the hope of being able to get more money out of you for the same effort.
Morally you paid to access the content, you paid to compensate the creators for their work. Now you’re entitled to view what you’ve paid for.
If you want to support the creator, spread the word. Paying for things will generally just fill the purses of some rich ass media company execs who sit around all day masturbating on their third yacht.
By spreading the word, the creator is suddenly known for “having created this media that everyone knows”, landing them better deals with media corporations.
This concept applies to pretty much all media in all forms.
And when it comes to morality, that’s something you can only define for yourself.
Well the point of his coming here to discuss the ethics of it was to go beyond his own starting moral intuitions, to consider arguments and perspectives that pertain to the ethics of the act in question. The view that morality is a personal matter is a non-starter as far as moral philosophy goes. The ball is in OP’s court over who/what to consult to find relevant ethical considerations, and it’s up to him to reason those out and whether to follow them, but that doesn’t make the ethics itself something for him to define.
Asking if pirating something is wrong in a pro pirating group…
Fair lol
yeah go for it! Do what you want. You already gave them money.
According to their ToS:
You are granted a non-exclusive, non-transferable, limited right and license to access and use the Content solely for your private non-commercial viewing.
You must not transfer, copy or display Content except as permitted in this Vudu Policy.
They basically don’t allow you to download any movie to watch them outside their app. You are not actually “purchasing” the movies, you simply “purchasing” access to watch those movies on Vudu.
As for morality of downloading movies you already “purchased”, consider this quote I came across a little while ago: “Is piracy really stealing if paying isn’t owning?”
You have to decide if you have a duty to follow licensing agreements or not. Most folks here do not believe they do.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ethics-deontological/#DeoThe
Legally, it is illegal. Ethically, I think you’re fine. If you pay for something you should be allowed to use the thing.
I feel like that basic interpretation of the law probably predates the code of Hammurabi.
This is a corporate run late stage capitalism hell hole. Do whatever you want that doesn’t hurt people, unless they’re bad people.
Do you own the movie? Or does the studio own you?
Therein lies the answer.
Only if you brag of it in Lemmy.world, that way the police will catch you /s
You’ve paid your fee, I see nothing morally questionable in what you are doing.
I’m with you on this one, you’ve bought it, you should be allowed to do as you please with it.
nothing is wrong with piracy
The real crime is paying for content to begin with /s
