John Deere brags about sabotaging competitors & customers on hot mic - they’re PROUD of it!

        • @grayman@lemmy.world
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          122 years ago

          Look up Edison Motors. A literal logger in Canada is beating out every truck company with investors. People are excited and lining up to buy them (logging companies anyway).

          What he’s doing with logging trucks can be done with tractors.

            • @grayman@lemmy.world
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              22 years ago

              What is it? 90% of companies fail in under 3 years?

              I get it. Still cool to see someone try and try well.

          • @steltek@lemm.ee
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            22 years ago

            Wow, that’s a cool little company. Also, “Stealing Tesla’s Ideas”, ha.

            Related to the sibling comment, good ideas are rarely the whole story to a company’s success. Execution (and luck) matter.

            I’m going to need to read up more on them. The jump from “regular truck drivers who do repairs” to “so we put a locomotive drivetrain in our truck” is too big and I think it’s really the key to them getting off the ground.

        • @pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz
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          202 years ago

          Not necessarily. A bunch of us could band together and fund a bunch of folks who are good at building shit and just commission them to design and build new tractors that are easily repairable – preferably electric too – and then sell them. And this effort could be incorporated as a non-profit, which itself legally can own businesses and those businesses could sell them at a profit, and kill off John Deere’s shitty-ass company and any other shitbirds that want to take away consumers’ rights to own their own products.

            • @FringeTheory999@lemmy.world
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              212 years ago

              Because it’s idiotic and non-actionable. I didn’t down vote him though. I say go ahead and try it, see how far you get. John Deer has lots of money, it’s not like they wouldn’t act to stop you. They’ll sue you into oblivion and they won’t even need a case with merit to drive your little startup into the ground. They’ll just outspend you, not to mention they’ll have consolidated supply lines that you’ll need and that they will not share. The first rule of capitalism is that competition is not to be tolerated.

                • @FringeTheory999@lemmy.world
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                  102 years ago

                  If someone challenges you to a fist fight, don’t fist fight them. They want you to fist fight them because it gives them advantage. They’ve trained and prepared for fist fights their entire life. You are doing them a favor by fighting them by their rules. You have to fight them on your terms, playing your own game. Whatever your game is, that’s the way you have to face them. harrass, sabotage and disrupt. Failing that, guillotines are a very fun game indeed.

                  taking on a business, with business is like wresting a pig. You’ll both get dirty and the pig likes it.

              • @Blimp7990@reddthat.com
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                32 years ago

                That tells you all you need to know about how other people really are.

                whats the last manufacturing company you started?

                  • @Blimp7990@reddthat.com
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                    02 years ago

                    lol, what a response

                    well crafted implication that you could back up what you’re saying, but why would you. I like it. You still suck, but, solid internet points collector.

            • @Blimp7990@reddthat.com
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              2 years ago

              your definition of “something actionable” is:

              1. organize $0.5-1 bn in funding (<1 % of deere market cap, seemed reasonable given the cost per unit and r&d time to develop a whole new automotive platform)
              2. spend 5-10 years developing a new platform, and manufacturing to support anything remotely resembling the scope of american agriculture
              3. ???
              4. profit

              did i get that right?

              cause i think your definition of “something actionable” is a bit far-fetched.

              now its fair to say “well didn’t john deere do that?” and the answer is…no. not at all.

              • Cosmic Cleric
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                22 years ago

                You’re incorrect with your item number one, as far as being able to take an invention from the drawing board to actual product ready to be sold.

                Under the right conditions it can be done for a lot less is what you’ve stated.

                • @Blimp7990@reddthat.com
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                  02 years ago

                  I am “incorrect” with an extreme hypothetical estimate?

                  on the one hand, :o !!!

                  on the other hand, where is your plan to replace john deere on, say, $150m (you said a lot less than 500m, so im picking 150 as ‘a lot less’)