What you personally believe isn’t really important. You should look at research around obesity intervention from the NIH and other international institutions. This is a well-researched field.

What are you even attempting to prove with this? That fat people are bad because their nurses may get injured from handling them? You really need to reflect on your own motivation in this moment.

I feel like I reasonably addressed the basic issue. I don’t think someone can gain literal weight without eating more calories than they consume, because that is how thermodynamics work. But it’s not always as straightforward as over eating, and it doesn’t always feel like over eating. For example, common cases of obesity in the US are due to a high amount of hyper processed foods that are calorie dense but don’t feel filling. Fat people don’t gorge themselves every meal, they eat what feels like a regular amount to sate their hunger. That’s why semaglutides are so effective, they make you feel hungry less and full faster. And shame based approaches at making people eat less have been proven not to work, because they don’t teach them to choose better foods or make them feel less hungry.

Fat isn’t necessarily just about CICO. Someone might have a disorder causing them to store more fat than, for example, build muscle. You might have a thyroid disorder causing you to feel lethargic despite the fact that you ate a BMR level of calories, so you end up storing the remaining energy as fat. Not even getting into the variety of ways human behavior is illogical and can’t reasonably be answered with “just eat less.” Treatment for eating disorders is not like that.

The parent comment provided tons of scientific research providing evidence towards the fact that shame doesn’t motivate weight loss and that epigenetic factors play a key difference in obesity. You laid out a few theoreticals to explain why actually, a fat person I made up in my mind doesn’t have to be fat because they can just stop eating.

The irony being that despite the ironclad argument you wrote, they’ll still irrationally judge fat people for their weight.

In addition to niche political audiences, Lemmy is full of tech professionals who have probably integrated AI into their daily workflow in some meaningful ways.

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