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dude it’s not a eulogy. how are people still bitching about smiley faces especially in conversations like this. fucking inhuman corporate robot piece of 💩
I think the widespread use of chat clients and services like slack in large companies has changed this norm.
There was a time where it would be unprofessional, but now its a solution to the communication flaw inherent in written messages. Conveying emotion.
My spouse works fairly high up at one of the evil tech giants and their team was very excited to be working with some dude who had written a computer language (I don’t remember the details) and someone had written him this very professional document requesting he read it and assess it, his only response to this very carefully prepared document was a “👍🏻” and literally nothing else lol, everyone was low key offended but no one said anything to him because they all basically considered him a celebrity
I work for a MSP, and we have a chat for “account managers”, a non technical position where they interact with the clients upper management, and tell them stuff we as techs shouldn’t (hard no’s, complaints, large project recommendations etc).
That chat is full of gifs, jokes, emoticons and some memes. I feel like the weird one not feeling comfortable doing that there. I do all that stuff too, but usually in smaller more private chats.
Ill message my boss and get a emoticon response sometimes, usually for simple yes or okay responses, and they’ll send out meme for some regular announcements like timesheets or stuff
Very well said.
Gonna use this argument anytime a boomer breaths.
I use the facepalm one all the time at work.
“I’ve never been promoted for my professionalism, but I’ve been promoted countless times for my skill. If you’d rather lose out on the best employee you may ever have because of a smiley face, I’m not sure this environment would be a good fit for me anyway.”
Am I the only one who sends GIFs in work chats?
I mean I won’t send one to a VP but I can send them to peers, supervisors, managers, department heads. No issues.
Hell people throw down happy Monday memes around.
GIFs are just about the best thing about moving from Skype to Teams for work. I think if they took them from us there’d be an uproar tbh.
Microsoft bought giphy I think so they know what’s up. That’s why they got a GIF button now.
I can’t find anywhere that says Microsoft has owned Giphy.
Meta bought giphy. I got it twisted
I worked at a mid sized company, we used slack and used gifs and memes and had thousands of custom emojis uploaded.
Got purchased by a mega Corp, now use Teams, we’ve been slowly corrupting them with smileys, memes, gifs, etc. It’s been good.
Same thing happened to us but we’ve completed the corruption already.
Important meetings are meme/gif free but daily meetings and team chats are fully corrupted. It’s more of a work culture thing. Less stuffy.
Yeah it’s been a couple years now and it’s clear we’re won lol. Our last town hall had a game where you spam gifs in the chat :P would have been unthinkable a couple years ago. They literally had gifs turned off before we got there.
I’m afraid I’m about to go through this exact same thing. Company currently uses Slack, with hundreds of custom emojis and our own shitposting channel. We got bought out by a massive international conglomerate several months ago, and ultimately the plan is to move everything over to Microsoft, which is what they use throughout their organization.
You can add custom emojis in teams now 🙂
Teams has improved a lot in the past couple years since I was forced to move over, and Microsoft power automate is legitimately really powerful if you’re interested in automation.
Good luck with the corporate culture though, it really sucks.
Amateurs, I share scat porn on slack.
I wish you were not gonna lie my coworkers are not my friends and I don’t want to see their memes or other goofy business, I left a group message the other day because someone replied to something I said with a gif I find it rude in a professional setting.
I use memes when appropriate with the right people.
I helped out a peer and they thanked me. Thumbs up gif.
Someone closed out a tough ticket. Congrats gif.
I finished a tough ticket. Frodo its done in group chat.
Servers are down. No memes. How can I help.
Sadly some people don’t have good social etiquette. But I use my memes and people like it.
Well, it’s good that you left the group chat then. That’s a win win. You don’t have to see GIFs and they don’t have to deal with a huge pessimist.
It’s not pessimistic to not want to be involved with coworkers in an unprofessional manner, i said a form of communication was inappropriate for text messaging instead of an email because it was too long and some turd sends a GIF back of some guy going pshh flapping his hand off in my mind he’s an unprofessional jackass.
if I’m working I’m not there to see your stupid bullshit I’m there to make money and go back to my own stupid bullshit.
Well done of us can have some fun while working.
They’re friendlier, and even if you hate them, they make intent a lot clearer over text.
Being courteous and clear in your communications is professional. Being tacit and sententious is not.
sententious
sententious /sĕn-tĕn′shəs/ adjective
- Terse and energetic in expression; pithy.
- Full of or given to using aphorisms, especially in a pompously moralizing manner.
- Abounding with sentences, axioms, and maxims; full of meaning; terse and energetic in expression; pithy. “a sententious style or discourse; sententious truth”
Learned a new word, thanks!
Haha thanks for commenting with the definition. I considered doing that myself, since I too only just recently learned the word, but somehow it feels kind of condescending to do it myself.
lol yeah, would’ve been weird if you did it, and I wanted to save some folks the time. I wonder if it would still be condescending if you just linked a word to a page with its definition?
Emojis are fine, but I still prefer emoticons - I feel like they have more flair ^ _ ^
Depending on the venue, I end up viewing emotions as a passive indicator of “Internet tenure”. O_o Conveys that someone has been on the Internet longer than 🤨 usage. (In some cases)
<_<
>_>
All clear, management have gone on another away day!
^_^
༼ つ◔ _◔༽つ TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ◔ _◔༽つ
I agree, but there is just too many who are late t9 the oarty and just wouldn get it.
¯ _(ツ)_/¯
EDIT: I wonder why the backslash doesn’t display
Because the backslash is an escape character:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯-> ¯_(ツ)_/¯¯\\_(ツ)_/¯-> ¯\(ツ)/¯¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯-> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Explanation:
- the backslash is used to escape the underscore.
- the first backslash escapes the second backslash, so it’s shown as a backslash. The pair of underscores is used to display the characters between in italics
- both the backslash and the first underscore are escaped, everything finally works
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I am not 100% sure but I think it some formatting thing where you need to put 2 of them for it to display like this:
¯ \(ツ)/¯
EDIT: I can confirm that is the case.
we made smiley faces with keyboard characters in the before times. nobody cared. it was no big deal. wink smile frown w/e. emojis ruined it. Unprofessional like when graphic artist used ‘love you like a sister’ font on a college website. cartoons are not serious. business is serious business and takes itself seriously. any MBA would agree. does it increase growth or profit? lose it. graphic clowns stick to ads for the click-bait spam that somehow makes money. :-)
🖕 that guy and his supposed professionalism
I disabled to use of emojis when I set up our companies internal wiki for SOP thinking that wasn’t appropriate for technical documentation, but my boss asked me to turn them back on because he wanted to use them. I begrudgingly obliged.
Turns out he didn’t want to use smileies, just the icons for quickly identifying bullet points like ⛔‼️✅❕or even 🌐🖨️
A decade ago, I was annoyed by emojis. Hate that shit.
But then some PM decorated all the knowledge base page titles in our Confluence to have a icon in the front to visually group the goal.
And that’s when I learned how valuable a good emoji can be.
As a fellow former hater and likely fellow autist (it is 196 after all), emojis are freaking great. Helps to convey emotions and feelings in regular text and helps to clarify things in more formal texts.
Weird … I was told the exact same thing by my boss.
So I stopped using emojis, and then she told me that my messages were “passive-aggressive” or “rude”
And I told her that’s why people use emojis, to add the nuance that is missing because we aren’t communicating face-to-face 🤷♀️
Emoji are fine, but I hate when people follow every other word with one. You know the type: every “I see” is followed by 👀, they can’t mention a house without 🏠, and God help you if they start talking about their pet, because there’s more pictures of animals, hearts, and stars than words.
Per my previous email: 🍆
🖕
With more gusto!
🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽
💅
I worked with someone once who would write the most condescending chat messages and finish them off with a smiley face. I think he truly didn’t understand that the smiley made it worse. Regardless of the lack of social awareness, his superiority complex was annoying.
I exclusively only use smileys sarcastically in work emails to shitty managers. He knew.
lol I would want to punch that person, too
In this case, her expectation was that she receive whole paragraphs (with positivity if possible) for comments on her slide deck, rather than a short comment with my suggestion to make stuff better.
She’s the dumbass who asked a technical editor to review her stuff 🤷♀️ 😀 😀
(and before anyone points out my grammatical/punctuation errors above: it’s early and idgaf)
It sounds like you just don’t understand how brilliant you coworker was. You should probably look into effective communication methods and/or go back to school. Maybe if you weren’t so closed minded, you could learn something. 🙂
/s in case it wasn’t obvious
Without the smiley face I’m annoyed enough… with it just gives me an image I want to punch 🫠
Icelander? Could just be a cultural tone.
No, a Californian
Condolences
This is why I hate people. You never know when you’ll meet one of these dumb dumbs that think life is a competition to seem the most adult. They’re the idiots that need to have prefaces saying shit like “the video game industry is actually bigger than the music and movie industry combined” when reading financial times. Get stuffed.
Can you explain a bit more about the preface thing? That seems fine. Are you saying they assume an article is less relevant because they don’t think videogames is a large industry? (This also seems fine to me, the point of news is to educate readers)
Their so into being the most adult version of themselves they have to have gaming explained to them like they don’t already know. I am actually referencing another thing I saw earlier this week on lemmy, where the shared article literally did that, tried to preface an explanation of just how big the gaming industry is, as if the readers, people with money that speculate on stocks etc. don’t already know that there’s gold in them thar gaming hills.
But you could be right, gaming has only been big for like 30-40 years since consoles, and in particular playstation blew up, maybe there’s still 60+ year olds that don’t know wtf is going on in the world.I think that’s more of an investors being stupid thing.
My workplace is somewhat stuffy but I’ve still never seen anyone take issue with a smiley or similar emoji in an email. Tone is hard to assess over text, a simple :) goes a long way sometimes.
I’m afraid I have to give you your notice, as your position is no longer a priority for the company 😢
Well thanks for wasting the last 3 years of my career, you feckless ghouls!!! 😜❤️
Dear Karen,
you are the dumbest bitch I’ve ever had to work with and I hope you die a gruesome death.
:)
As per my last message 🖕🙄
I understand your concerns but ☝️😴
Don’t worry, that’s a valid question 🫵😆
There’s a woman I haven’t met in person but I have to send emails to about once a month to ask for something only her group can do
One time I did something like "could you help us get xxx report from your system by CoB? 😅 " and she replied that emojis could have a hidden meaning and are not professional and I should not use them in emails
Next time after she helped me I went to the greetings system we use and send her a public card for gratitute or team work with some gif of cute cats hugging. I think everyone had a similar experience with her because a lot of people liked the post and then they started doing the same
The worst part is that we have the option to give away points in the system that can be redeemed for gift cards but I’ve never seen anyone give her points, only cute gifs
I’m suddenly finding myself feeling very deprived of cute gifs and envious of this women. Though random monetary rewards would be nice too
Same! Especially for client management and working with a broader internal team (as long as you ensure that’s an acceptable level of casualness in comms) it’s incredibly useful to give context for the tone of a message that could without it be interpreted either positively or negatively.
For example: Especially for client management and working with a broader internal team (as long as you ensure that’s an acceptable level of casualness in comms) it’s incredibly useful to give context for the tone of a message that could without it be interpreted either positively or negatively. :)
It didn’t drastically change the content of the message, but it can help someone who’s potentially having a bad day and subconsciously perceiving things negatively to instead see the positive context of the information relayed in what’s on its own a largely neutral message (with neutral messages I find people’s current positive or negative moods tend to have them perceive the message in a manner reflective of that current emotional state).
In case you didn’t know, correcting someone’s syntax is considered unprofessional. 🍆👊
🍆
I have a limit I can tolerate, one emoji every other sentence.
I don’t use them in emails myself, but react emojis to internal work messages are fairly commonplace. A 👍 next to a message is often just a good way to know someone has confirmed reading something rather than needing to write “okay” which is ambiguous (what are you saying okay to?) and takes up space.
But I use a different range of emojis with different people when I do use them, to taste. With colleagues it’s one of 😁😆😅😕😯❤️👍👆, with friends it’s probably one of 🤣🤩😍🤔💀🧐😭🤯🥴😔😏😗💨 or 👀.
I totally use 🙃😐😑🤔😔😬 with my team where appropriate, 💯🔥👊🤗🙌 also get used (with like every other emoji you listed) by the entire department all the time, usually as reactions to messages, reaction gifs are also pretty common. Similar thing to 👍 beside a message, just extra descriptive. Client conversations are limited usually to just 👍 reactions. They’re great for symbolic indicators in reporting too.
I like how much extra information emojis bring, definitely used emoticons and the like for that in the past so it’s just a continuation of that to me (I still use emoticons from time to time, ellipsis too) tone is often lost in text otherwise.
Using them to create tone and context is very helpful.
An example of where it’s excessive to me is Martin Wimpress’ Ubuntu MATE blog, like I know what a paper cut is, the emojis don’t add anything and are more of a nuisance to read. I think Martin has toned it down in his more recent posts.
There was a legal case in Eastern Canada a short while ago that ruled “👍” is legally binding as an affirmative in terms of a verbal contract.
“Do you agree to XYZ?”
“👍”
I mean, does anyone really consider this not an affirmation? You should only use it as a reply to statements, e.g. “I will arrive a couple minutes later today.”
In this case it was more of a miscommunication. IIRC they used “👍” to say, “Yes, I received your text. Hold on a moment while I prepare things”. Something like that… I think that emoji cost the guy something like three-million dollars.
